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00:00:01This week the virtual females breakfast eaters and chickens. I'm
00:00:06right glad I'm Travers Mackel and I'm a bright spaghetti popcorn croquet
00:00:11Trenton's like
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00:00:22Hello brain travel as I'm looking at your face because I'm in the same
00:00:27room. Welcome to my bedroom. Welcome to my food war. Thank you.
00:00:27room. Welcome to my bedroom. Welcome to my food war. Thank you.
00:00:32It's kind of like old times we did live in the same room for a year in
00:00:36college.
00:00:50. Yes and sometimes the names of the dead people in certain parts of L.A..
00:00:55Yeah it's weird. Yeah. Let me preface I want to do a little bit of a
00:01:00teaser and I'll explain why are why I find this week easy very musical why
00:01:31God damn it I missed McDonald's breakfast again is not the worst when
00:01:36I don't start my day with a sausage because then I just.
00:01:41What's the point I was even the point.
00:01:41What's the point I was even the point.
00:01:43I have been trying this is not a lie I have been wanting to try Taco Bell's
00:01:47breakfast menu in a similar story our breakfast a factor. Well that's a thing I would like to just to
00:01:52find out if I am but I haven't gotten the chance because I wake up I wake up a little bit later than
00:01:57most people and like the nearest Taco Bells a twenty five minute walk from my place if you had twenty five minutes to
00:02:02actually walk and think about that choice
00:02:02actually walk and think about that choice
00:02:04. You're not going to do it but you know I haven't gotten a try Taco Bells
00:02:09of course I have tried McDonald's breakfast menu though as many of our listeners I assume all of our
00:02:16McDonald's stopped serving breakfast at ten thirty every day. This is been
00:02:22for as long as I can remember. A hugely contested and deeply
00:02:26argued thing which I get from my point of view like what why
00:02:50gained about fifteen pounds because they gave you pretty much whatever you wanted for free. That
00:02:55said once you get to a point where people are going to stop ordering a certain
00:03:00item you've got a bunch of that item just waiting in places where it's being kept
00:03:05warm and you know it's just a business thing it's like it's like they know people are going to stop
00:03:10ordering breakfast as much after that time so they go ahead and switch over to their flagship thing which is
00:03:15for McDonald's It's the burgers. Well here is the thing.
00:03:20McDonald's and men do and so hot as of late I think they may have been getting a lot
00:03:25of a lot of negative press. A lot of people saying that you know they they
00:03:30have. If I remember correctly there are customers like opinion polls have been
00:03:34consistently down right year over year they've become kind of you know like how
00:03:39there's always a Justin Bieber or Britney Spears to like hate on indiscriminately.
00:03:44They've become like the food version of that like people don't even like if McDonald's came out with
00:03:54five years before anybody would stop saying you know McDonald's shit food like well what is
00:03:58funny is I like it so I live down the street from me is a McDonald's and a jack in the box
00:04:03right across the street from one another and if you want to talk about like people throwing shit at the
00:04:14No how about this it's like chicken and it's wrapped in chocolate bacon is that cool what about fried
00:04:19spaghetti popcorn croquettes maybe no yes no no everyone but the McDonald's are like we're putting the
00:04:24steak on a burger and McDonalds you're going crazy calm it down.
00:04:28Yeah go get above your raising. And I think that that's it I think that like McDonald's
00:04:33is a thing right that everybody when they think fast food and they think want to grab a burger
00:04:38. No one's going to McDonald's because they're wanting not soloing steak you know
00:04:53and thirteen comparable sales at restaurants that have been open at least thirteen months declined
00:04:58two point two percent in the U.S. That's like a huge decrease. Sure
00:05:03that's very significant. So McDonald's is trying out a couple things and one of the things that they are
00:05:08trying to increase their business and how to grow their
00:05:08trying to increase their business and how to grow their
00:05:12market a little bit is an all day breakfast now from what I can find.
00:05:17It's not like it's not like Jack in the boxes it leaves you know breakfast all day.
00:05:17It's not like it's not like Jack in the boxes it leaves you know breakfast all day.
00:05:22They would basically transfer like the most popular items over so like you could still get a
00:05:27sausage biscuit or immigrate all day. Maybe you can't get the flapjack you know the
00:05:32hot cakes. Yeah the hot cakes bladder all day but you could get yourself a sausage risk you could get yourself an
00:05:37Egg McMuffin. I eat. Here's the thing I think
00:05:37Egg McMuffin. I eat. Here's the thing I think
00:05:42that if they did that in the first month they would probably see a pretty huge spike
00:05:46as people went Oh but it's one thirty in the afternoon I get a thousand get
00:05:51Yeah I don't know that over time it would be a huge bond but I
00:05:56think it couldn't hurt you know what you did you know to do once sales start to decline from
00:06:02That's when you start with dinner all day. Oh yeah yeah I mean
00:06:07yeah five in the morning you want to wake up super early and buy a quarter pounder which is a stupid
00:06:12idea
00:06:12idea
00:06:12. You know I honestly I thought about that a lot because well here's the thing. McDonald's
00:06:17Most of them stay open twenty four hours now and you have people that work weird hours I
00:06:17Most of them stay open twenty four hours now and you have people that work weird hours I
00:06:22remember if I did a couple shifts of that spy where we did overnight where I was like working and
00:06:27reset up you know different displays and everything. We'd get out at seven o'clock in the morning after
00:06:27reset up you know different displays and everything. We'd get out at seven o'clock in the morning after
00:06:32working seven P.M. to seven A.M. I don't want a sausage biscuit I wanted a hamburger I want to eat dinner
00:06:37right
00:06:37right
00:06:37. And places like i Hop for your big boy your your
00:06:42big boys. No I said Big Boy that what your bird your large
00:06:47boy media people in Britain of the Brit boy lately but not like they have a
00:06:52full menu all the time and that's part of their charm maybe McDonald's is heading toward
00:06:57being a little bit more of a diner atmosphere
00:06:59. Well I also think and before we harp on it too much I do think
00:07:04and I think this is the pitfall is I think the reason for so long
00:07:09there's been such a demand of people saying why can't I get it after ten thirty
00:07:14is because they can't.
00:07:14is because they can't.
00:07:16And if it was available all day they're not going to like crave it kind of like if your
00:07:20sibling doesn't use their toy all the time in like you borrow it now they're pissed and now
00:07:25they want to play with it exact you know here's one thing that I think about with this story and that is
00:07:30that we are a culture now where I fly a lot and you see a lot of people in public now wearing
00:07:35pajamas. You see words like I feel like you know back in the sixty's
00:08:04home watching Saturday morning cartoons
00:08:07. I mean I'm not going to say you're wrong because you make a very convincing argument. But I would say
00:08:12that there's also just as much credence to this.
00:08:16It's just places like McDonalds and Jack in the box and Taco Bell knowing their audience
00:08:21and them spending the most money on advertising you know I mean yeah there's not a lot of
00:08:26really expensive steak houses spending the amount of money on advertising the
00:08:26really expensive steak houses spending the amount of money on advertising the
00:08:30McDonnell that's true it's kind of like how how supposedly in a
00:08:35in a fairly different but I think similar story how liquor sales like liquor companies
00:08:40rely on apparently functional alcoholics because their statistics
00:08:49daily weekly.
00:08:50So McDonald's is like can you imagine buying a bottle of liquor today
00:08:55. No I cannot I the closest thing I can compare it to is during
00:09:00my most heavy caffeine drinking periods I've gone through you
00:09:05know amounts of coffee that actually are dangerous and stupid per day or like multiple
00:09:10energy drinks you know. But I can imagine that thing is that's just going to make me
00:09:10energy drinks you know. But I can imagine that thing is that's just going to make me
00:09:14jittery and potentially productive I can imagine I mean that's a whole
00:09:19you know alcoholism is a disease that's my guess but but but I think that what
00:09:23McDonald's is probably doing is they know that their most loyal
00:09:35. You're welcome McDonald's Yeah I mean listen I'm not going to lie
00:09:40. There will come a day after they've made this switch where I
00:09:45will wake up at noon on a day that I well I never wake up and they're more like I have been
00:09:50up for five hours and then at noon I'll be like you know what I want right now. Sausage
00:10:02So I was clicking through stories to talk about today and one of the ones I found
00:10:06. So you and I had a little bit of a pre-show
00:10:11debate about this discussion about it the headline is this. And from bossy a teen
00:10:16girl who was nearly killed in a rip tide was saved by herself the stick
00:10:21sounds very magical. I mean like really when you just see the fantastical Yeah what I
00:10:21sounds very magical. I mean like really when you just see the fantastical Yeah what I
00:10:26pictured was like she was being dragged out and she used it as like a
00:10:30paddle or she used it like I was I was like a rider to help steer on it so
00:10:35fast she became a helicopter or something. And so then I clicked through
00:10:39the page the story and like
00:10:39the page the story and like
00:10:44it's so she was using a Go Pro right so it's filming the whole time.
00:10:50But it's really confusing footage isn't mine imagine if she's being dunked underwater and
00:10:50But it's really confusing footage isn't mine imagine if she's being dunked underwater and
00:10:55hold underwater can tell there came a point where she wasn't really thinking in terms of cinematography. Yeah so
00:11:00what it actually seems to have happened as she was with her father and I think
00:11:05what I can make out from the story is as she was being like dragged out he grabbed the
00:11:10other end of the selfie stick and used it to help hold her back. And by the
00:11:15time he got there like he had been dunked underwater he wasn't doing so hot he was semi conscious by the time they got back
00:11:15time he got there like he had been dunked underwater he wasn't doing so hot he was semi conscious by the time they got back
00:11:21but it doesn't seem like anything about the nature of the selfie stick
00:11:26itself was lifesaving so much as it was a thing that she could reach
00:11:30out. Like imagine if the headline was like a girl saved because she was
00:11:35carrying stick you know or like or like miniature golf putter you know what I will
00:11:40say that I see why this is a headline they use because Sylvie six not only
00:11:45unlike a lot of good press you know they do kind of look dumb. They
00:11:50sell them on the piers everywhere I guess and but like you know they're in a
00:11:55very new state their new stable of tourists there yet you see I'm out on the Walk of Fame in
00:12:09Anybody.
00:12:10It's kind of like a shake weight. Actually it's not like a shake weight but
00:12:15OK. As it is like a shake weight. If you're just listening this is you're tuning in to
00:12:20Brent's ceiling not a lot of choices but the thing is like a shake weight is a
00:12:25thing with some function but it's also kind of a gag gift I feel like this is a little bit more
00:12:29functional they still kind of like a business pony that I bought this
00:12:32. Well what I think it is is I think what you've hit on is that of a function a need
00:12:37exists for it but it's a need manufactured by something that's not a necessity. Right
00:12:42so it's like oh I can't get out far enough to take a good picture of us. I'll use
00:12:47this stick to take a picture it's not like I used to stick to help drive a
00:12:52car or use this stick to rescue a girl away but it's
00:12:57this this idea of like we got by without it for so long that no one was sitting there
00:13:06three feet farther away. Right I think that's why I get so much shit is there is no way to use
00:13:11a selfie stick and not look self-centered womanlike.
00:13:15I you know I don't know why I feel the need to tell you that I fly a lot but I do fly a lot and
00:13:20I have seen this thing happen. It's in airports specifically somebody is
00:13:20I have seen this thing happen. It's in airports specifically somebody is
00:13:25flying. They had this need to let people know they're traveling maybe it's like so that people
00:13:29know why they're not answering their tweets or text or whatever but like they will. I've seen it
00:13:34multiple times and in my anecdotal experience it's often a female but that doesn't matter the
00:13:39point is that they'll just take this picture of themselves where right before they took the picture like on a
00:13:44power walk or something they look bored or depressed or sad or just like travel
00:13:49face and then they make this little traverses taking a selfie of us right now it's not
00:13:54flattering of me me me that my hair's not on I will tell you Yes yes my
00:14:04like there is something inherently kind of like look how great things are here
00:14:08there is. So we tend to have kind of when you take a selfie you're
00:14:13creating the image of you typically that you're happy and having fun in whatever
00:14:18you're doing and still be stick now makes it where not only am I doing all those things but
00:14:23also somebody else took the picture for me or I magically just am
00:14:27happy without having to reach my arm out
00:14:27happy without having to reach my arm out
00:14:29. We need to have a much bigger discussion maybe next episode. People send us stories about
00:14:34snapchat because I just started doing snapchat as an experiment because I really want to find out the
00:14:44snapchat only existed for naughty reasons. Right why else would you want to
00:14:49send a picture that immediately disappeared right is that how it works. Well you know that's not
00:14:53satire work so you take a picture right you send it to someone and then it like
00:14:58last for five seconds and then they can access it but here's the thing not to like
00:15:03completely ruined snap chats
00:15:05. Secret but as probably everybody out there knows anything that your particular i
00:15:10Phone and in your i Phone has on the screen you press your power and here is the
00:15:15thing if you do that the person who sent you the picture gets a message that you took a
00:15:19screenshot of the picture.
00:15:19screenshot of the picture.
00:15:21Oh yeah so there's a way to alert the person. But here's the thing I was like What is the
00:15:26purpose of this. That's not not not are you sure and I've
00:15:45work and they send you it and it goes away because they don't have to worry about their hair looking good they don't have to worry about
00:15:50like if it's a flattering angle because it'll be gone in five seconds or so.
00:15:55So here's here's kind of like the way that I see it based on what I know which is very little.
00:15:55So here's here's kind of like the way that I see it based on what I know which is very little.
00:16:00Instagram is a way for someone like me who maybe I've got listeners on this podcast
00:16:05maybe I've got viewers on You Tube that might be interested in whatever I feel like taking a picture of today in
00:16:09my life so they'll follow me and they'll see what's going on in my life right. Well basically like
00:16:09my life so they'll follow me and they'll see what's going on in my life right. Well basically like
00:16:14the implication is that anybody gives a crap about my pictures which maybe they do if they're following
00:16:19me. Snapchat seems like in the same way that people have normal
00:16:19me. Snapchat seems like in the same way that people have normal
00:16:24texts and normal tweets and they're not being celebrities or they're not trying to talk to
00:16:29their audience. It's like the picture version of that. But I sit there and go I can
00:16:29their audience. It's like the picture version of that. But I sit there and go I can
00:16:34send somebody a picture via text I guess I just don't personally see what
00:16:39distinguishes it as a form of social media when you could just
00:16:44text a picture to somebody.
00:16:44text a picture to somebody.
00:16:46Well I think it's more fun because and I don't know how this went from
00:16:46Well I think it's more fun because and I don't know how this went from
00:16:50seventy six saving a girl to this but I think the thing with Snapchat is it's far more
00:16:55casual So like if you send a picture to someone in their text like they've got that forever if they
00:17:00want to you can just sit there and send them a quick five second video of two action figures
00:17:05talking to each other just like as a kid I'm killing time and making a small stop shot video and
00:17:09sending it to the person. So all this and we can talk about this a lot more
00:17:15on Trav McElroy T R A V M C E L R O Y on
00:17:19snapchat. So he's a big tell me experience the snapshot experience
00:17:24but rather just full of parental Graham on Instagram.
00:17:24but rather just full of parental Graham on Instagram.
00:17:32All right speaking of nutty stuff Travis. Does anyone you've met in your internet travels have
00:17:37any incriminating data about you pictures journal entries etc Anything that
00:17:37any incriminating data about you pictures journal entries etc Anything that
00:17:42maybe you wouldn't want plastered all over the place.
00:17:44I mean probably probably most of it is like live journals I
00:17:44I mean probably probably most of it is like live journals I
00:17:49wrote when I was better just like sappy or like overly dramatic more
00:17:54than it is like actually factually embarrassed you know like college dick pics like funnel around
00:17:54than it is like actually factually embarrassed you know like college dick pics like funnel around
00:17:58ink so I don't have a very solid memory I don't remember this and they
00:18:03didn't break. Who the fuck knows.
00:18:05Oh well I mean I'm Me Me Me neither. Anyway
00:18:10so Ashley Madison is a Web site that was hacked
00:18:14recently. Ashley Madison is basically a dating site for married people who are
00:18:19looking for someone to cheat with their slogan is life is short have an affair. Well
00:18:50OK Real quick first if anybody knows why the site is
00:18:55named like it's a person. Please let me know. I've always wondered why it's called Ashley
00:18:59Madison because the dude who runs it who's not at all named Ashley Madison.
00:18:59Madison because the dude who runs it who's not at all named Ashley Madison.
00:19:04That's a great point yeah I don't know if that was just like the username he used to
00:19:09conduits into like sending him money when he started but well maybe a focus group well maybe
00:19:14not the idea that why is it called Ashley Madison and not like fast hook ups dot com Maybe you know
00:19:19what maybe it's like I don't know I've never. Listen
00:19:24here's the thing. Usually at this point in the conversation I would be the very judgment till
00:20:09what it has done is made it easier for cheaters to kind of get
00:20:14away with their share because if you think about it right I write a letter I send it to a
00:20:19lady you know Whittingham or whatever how much does she want
00:20:24so much. I said the lady waking him later waking him has a
00:20:28ladder. She binds all my letters together and we are talking about three hundred years ago. Yeah right she's got it like
00:20:28ladder. She binds all my letters together and we are talking about three hundred years ago. Yeah right she's got it like
00:20:33a little ribbon bound packet of letters. Sure right this is a problem
00:20:38right. I send her a snap chat it's gone in five seconds.
00:20:43Done right. And so something like Ashley Madison I think the promise of it is like
00:20:43Done right. And so something like Ashley Madison I think the promise of it is like
00:20:48it you can't find it no one's going to like open up the Internet and pull out your
00:20:53letters right.
00:21:13morality in terms of Puritanism and that's like like the only
00:21:18kind of morality is like puritanical biblically based or Judeo Christian based or even
00:21:23Abrahamic Leigh base but like this is tricky because it's like on the one hand they're
00:21:43upset about Ashley Madison's full delete service which promises to completely
00:21:48erase a user's profile and they charge one thousand dollars for that. Well Ashley Madison's
00:21:52parent company made almost two million dollars last year specifically from their full delete service and
00:21:57yet the hackers say that the user's purchase details including their
00:22:02real names are not a race of the full delete service is basically a lie
00:22:07. That data is still there and it's like if you if your credit
00:22:12card is on file as signing up for Ashley Madison that doesn't necessarily mean you put it in anybody
00:22:12card is on file as signing up for Ashley Madison that doesn't necessarily mean you put it in anybody
00:22:16but they will and here's a thing that's not new because there was also a problem.
00:22:20I want to say it was a year or maybe two ago where right around the horribly
00:22:25offensively named happening happened right where all of the ladies and I
00:22:25offensively named happening happened right where all of the ladies and I
00:22:30can't think there was a beauty when their pictures were hacked and stolen. There was the
00:22:35same thing happen with Snapchat where this whole idea of like these pictures disappear and go
00:22:35same thing happen with Snapchat where this whole idea of like these pictures disappear and go
00:22:40away and they're nowhere anymore. Not so much because there was a sister
00:22:45hacking to the Foundling called the snow happening where like hundreds of thousands
00:23:03hackers led by somebody whose life was ruined by Ashley Madison and if so
00:23:08was it because his girlfriend cheated on him her boyfriend cheated on her or was it because
00:23:12he was trying to cheat in the full delete service didn't work. That's the part of the story that really
00:23:17intrigues me because you never consider I guess I just never think
00:23:22of like sophisticated hackers you think of like Anonymous or whatever and Anonymous is trying to like
00:23:27stop things that I think are they have a different kind of morality
00:23:31.
00:23:37you describe someone who used the site got caught and I was
00:23:42like I'm going to get back at you or I mean you write option
00:23:47to somebody who is very puritanical or very like
00:23:51moral do gooder like I don't agree with what this site
00:23:51moral do gooder like I don't agree with what this site
00:23:56does. I watch my friends' marriages fall apart because of it or something. So now I'm going to
00:24:01take it down from the inside. Or option three. It's completely wild card.
00:24:05Neither of those but somebody who just went like what do I want to do today. Me Actually now I think it's a lot of
00:24:10attention but I could hack the shit out of them.
00:24:10attention but I could hack the shit out of them.
00:24:12I guess I just feel like you know I met a couple hackers at this
00:24:17convention called anime Midwest a few weeks ago and I was like Oh so you're professional hackers I kind of
00:24:22like not as they scoffed at that but I was like so. When you do. And they're like we get
00:24:32like those are white hats right. That's the thing like. So what I'm saying is
00:24:37if there's all this money to be made if you're a legitimately good hacker in the corporate
00:24:42world what are you doing.
00:24:42world what are you doing.
00:24:44That's what I'm saying is that's why I think that this sounds like not one or two I
00:24:49lean towards option three because I think this is somebody who's not doing it for money not doing it
00:25:15this in the past I think that we were heading
00:25:19weather above the surface or below.
00:25:22As a society we're heading toward more.
00:25:28Blurry definition of monogamy or rather a more blurry sense of right and wrong when
00:25:33it comes to relationship arrangements.
00:25:45I misspoke I think what I mean is that like the cookie cutter here is how we do things in
00:25:49relationship monogamy or nothing right and that's kind of becoming like you're
00:25:54out of the way. I'm just hearing more and more about often hidden or
00:25:59secretive coupled it's like in the same way that like when we were younger going to school in
00:25:59secretive coupled it's like in the same way that like when we were younger going to school in
00:26:03Oklahoma we knew a lot of closeted gay people that were not closeted us their
00:26:08friends they were closeted to their family back home and their friends back home and I feel like
00:26:08friends they were closeted to their family back home and their friends back home and I feel like
00:26:13now I know of all these people that have a monogamous or non monogamous relationship
00:26:18or something going on where they feel like they have to hide it and if nothing else if this
00:26:23exposes the fact that you know what there are people who are good people and they are I mean
00:26:37ninety nine percent of what you said.
00:26:39Right the last syllable the last syllable. The problem is is that a site like Ashley
00:26:44Madison right because of the secrecy involved in it. I think
00:26:44Madison right because of the secrecy involved in it. I think
00:26:48inherently says this is not an agreement I have with my partner. This is not a thing that we've
00:26:53talked about this is not an open relationship. This is my partner thinks we're
00:27:06sometimes increased awareness of the ways in which humans are actually
00:27:11not doing what their culture says they're supposed to be doing is a way to sort of
00:27:16show how we all kind of fall short so maybe we should change the standards by which we live
00:27:21and be open to other possibilities. Yes but still maintaining the
00:27:25agreements that you have right like betrayal of an agreement with someone you're supposed to love
00:27:30and be a partner of is bad.
00:27:32That's all I'm saying let's just leave it there. That's bad. Yeah I will say this I'm very
00:27:41plays out. Also interested to see if it has any
00:27:45ramifications whatsoever if it's the kind of thing where it's like man a lot of
00:27:50shit went down and then two weeks later nobody talked about it what sucks about it.
00:27:50shit went down and then two weeks later nobody talked about it what sucks about it.
00:27:56Maybe maybe not for everyone but what sucks about it for a few choice people is let's say they release those
00:28:01thirty seven million names. Well like OK how many people are going to go to
00:28:01thirty seven million names. Well like OK how many people are going to go to
00:28:05sift through the data for their husband or their wife's name. However if
00:28:10there's any celebrities any mayors presidents anybody that's their fault.
00:28:15Well I agree. What I'm saying though is they'll take the
00:28:20brunt of the you know quote scandal where is like. I think there's a lot of
00:28:24people that unless somebody decides to make an easily
00:28:24people that unless somebody decides to make an easily
00:28:29searchable accessible database of is your husband or wife cheating
00:28:34on you based on this data I think a lot of people are going to go who you know
00:28:39I guess I'm going to stop cheating now because I am afraid to.
00:28:55Remind me which one is Cecil the Paladin Oh yeah yeah yeah oh yeah.
00:29:00Paladin later and then you got your buddy who does jumping right is that moment drame Oh
00:29:05man I love that game
00:29:21turned to stone to stop the wall.
00:29:22Yeah it's all a spoiler. Well of come on they've only had twenty
00:29:27three years to play this game here is the reason I ask. There have been a lot I mean I'm not I'm not
00:29:32telling anyone anything they don't are you know there have been leaps and bounds in the world of
00:29:37video games I mean all the time since since the early days but just recently
00:29:42I feel like we've seen a huge jump in just the last like three years. Oh yeah right.
00:29:46Stuff like A R V E R. Kind of like camera control or
00:29:51less I mean look at the we like that kind of thing if you had said to me when I was eight. Like
00:29:51less I mean look at the we like that kind of thing if you had said to me when I was eight. Like
00:29:56there will be wireless controllers like that in and of itself would have been a man I mean the fact that you're
00:30:01P.S.V. to play your Play Station four in an airport across the world like
00:30:06that still I cannot believe we are already well on the amount of shit that I can do on my
00:30:11X. Box The one where I'm just like so basically like this is my new media center.
00:30:14Yeah OK cool I mean you actually can hack Ashley Madison with your X.-Box one there you go.
00:30:19Do you remember when the P S three came out one of the things is like we hooked a bunch of them together to help like
00:30:24solve complex matter. Yeah I mean I was cool shit. Here's why I bring it up
00:30:24solve complex matter. Yeah I mean I was cool shit. Here's why I bring it up
00:30:30there is a company called the void. It's a startup company and
00:30:35if you just watch the promo video what they're publicizing it's a British company
00:30:40who is looking to open up in Utah. The first
00:31:08says on their website and on all the coverage I found is basically it would be like
00:31:13you pay by the half hour like thirty dollars per person for the half hour you get your
00:31:18have to exude I have to suit is like a full sensory thing so like if
00:31:23you're wearing a chest plate picture like a laser tag chest plate that you would feel the impact of
00:31:28bullets right right or something like that a little vibrating servos or that little and you're trying to get around
00:31:33your like your gloves on so like if you feel like you're holding something like pushing aside a curtain you
00:31:38feel the current Right which is super cool. Oh yeah. And
00:31:53people eight to ten pods for the whole thing so when I first read Pods I was picturing like
00:31:58one person in a pod and then you walk around. I thought if three this year it's basically like a
00:32:03disk I would say about three feet in diameter. Your shoes
00:32:08are specially matched with the material so you can walk and I write and there's a belt around
00:32:13in middle to hold in place it's like it's like a mini directional treadmill so you can walk around Sky rim
00:32:18exact your feet whichever way you turn your writing on a hallway you're holding a fake gun. You
00:32:23shake the gun fire kind of thing right. But this according to the video
00:32:23shake the gun fire kind of thing right. But this according to the video
00:32:28is like a maze that you're walking around it. Now here is why I don't believe
00:32:32it. All right we talk about this to you before the show I think that this
00:32:42gameplay because I've used this stuff before I've used the our helmets I've used
00:32:47you know I've watched movies and I played games in it. I did at E three a game
00:32:52called the kitchen which is like a horror survival game and it is
00:32:57a complete sensory deprivation right when you have this on like
00:33:02it's a very off putting. The first time I did it about ten minutes and I was like oh
00:33:07there could be anything in the room with me right now.
00:33:09Some could have just walked into the room and I would have no right not to name drop but I'm about to name drop Internet
00:33:14sensation John Tron is a guy that I hang out with occasionally in New York City he has an Oculus Rift
00:33:19and he was going to set up something so I could watch this demo and play this demo of it and when he was
00:33:19and he was going to set up something so I could watch this demo and play this demo of it and when he was
00:33:24setting it up with the helmet on his head it was all I could do NOT to put a poster on the
00:33:29back of his head. It was just like I am a Dum-Dum or whatever like what kick me you know because because
00:33:34no one can. When you have the helmet on you cannot perceive the real world around you.
00:33:38So in this video you see people like walking around back to back firing guns and
00:33:43like holding swords to face off against a dragon and what the thing is if that was a real they're just going to be
00:33:48running into each other and what if somebody just like put something on the floor that's not
00:33:48running into each other and what if somebody just like put something on the floor that's not
00:33:53showing up and right then down to like pick up a note you find on the ground or someone comes running through in terms of
00:33:57right now if in fact it is a car which stands for
00:34:02augmented reality that I buy basically how augmented reality works is you
00:34:02augmented reality that I buy basically how augmented reality works is you
00:34:07wear similar glasses but you're in the same place so like if you're in your living room
00:34:12you're still seeing your living room except the glasses show you things like on the walls or like
00:34:17on a table so you can like pick stuff up but it's projecting stuff onto the room you're
00:34:22in rather than completely changing the environment you're in. I
00:34:43you know the advocate of me who is hoping this sort of thing could go where I wanted to be real so bad I was like
00:34:48let's just go a little side if I for a second. Isn't it possible that you could have a
00:34:53V.C.R. helmet that knows where the other haptic suits the other V. our
00:34:53V.C.R. helmet that knows where the other haptic suits the other V. our
00:34:58helmets are so it's putting them in the game world but also could essentially scan a
00:35:02foreign object that it doesn't know where they are not necessarily represent them in real time but if
00:35:02foreign object that it doesn't know where they are not necessarily represent them in real time but if
00:35:07there's an obstacle on the floor that has any depth or weight to it it could show you a little
00:35:12blinking like hey we know what the fuck this is.
00:35:19very hopeful and I know you but here's the problem even if we
00:35:24were to hit a point where they were so real time right that whatever you saw
00:35:29out of the front was the. I just I find it hard to believe that like if you
00:35:29out of the front was the. I just I find it hard to believe that like if you
00:35:34tripped your reactions to like falling and catching yourself or
00:35:39keeping yourself from running into someone would be at the same speed if you weren't
00:35:39keeping yourself from running into someone would be at the same speed if you weren't
00:35:44watching. Even if it was like a millisecond different right. That like
00:35:48inherent. I feel like you're going to lose a limb now.
00:35:53Maybe not maybe that's just me assuming that. But I feel like suddenly your brain's going to
00:35:58disconnect and be like this isn't right
00:35:58disconnect and be like this isn't right
00:36:00. And like you're going to panic a little bit let me let me let me further devil's advocate you by saying
00:36:05this is the game of soccer.
00:36:05this is the game of soccer.
00:36:08Many of our listeners will know it as a football is a game
00:36:12that is very popular the world over very very popular I pronounced it popular
00:36:17. It's very popular the world over. And yet when you play it.
00:36:22There is a risk of tripping I mean true.
00:36:25Listen I'm not saying that there is not a risk involved in other things but this also leads into
00:36:30my next point which is this is not video
00:36:40involves risk. It involves physical exertion athleticism and I'm
00:36:45not saying this is not a joke on the fact that video game players don't have any kind of physical
00:36:49prowess. I'm saying that this it's like the difference between the Indian
00:36:54warping. They're two completely different things right. This is what we're talking about is
00:36:59this is a completely different thing it is. I will believe that you want me and I have to exude in
00:37:04like one of those disc things right. That's barely video games right
00:37:04like one of those disc things right. That's barely video games right
00:37:09. But I still think that once you introduce a physical element. We're
00:37:14not talking about video games anymore.
00:37:16Well what I see and I understand we and I get all of that but I can still sit
00:37:21on the couch to play way well and the thing is it's like I also don't own a week so I
00:37:26think it's not a Video games as we know them. It's like you know it's a
00:37:30heightened version of real space and real physical exertion but
00:37:30heightened version of real space and real physical exertion but
00:37:36I feel like this is a thing that you know will will still appeal to gamers and they're going to I
00:37:41mean let me ask you this if it's not video games will they just
00:37:56troopers. C.R. Taman because basically my Artane meant well. You're welcome folks.
00:38:01My favorite thing to do with them so far is like you can watch movies in a movie theater wearing the
00:38:05goggles and it's like you're the aspect ratio is so correct that you feel like you're
00:38:15an airplane.
00:38:16Putting on headphones that block out the sound putting on your glasses that block out everything else and here it
00:38:21is at a movie theater watching a movie I feel like this is where we're headed we've got a world with
00:38:26McDonald's All day we've got a world where Taco Bell is starting to deliver
00:38:32and I feel like before we know it it's like this it's like in one thousand nine hundred there was a movie
00:38:37about the horror of what if robots put us in a virtual
00:38:41world we didn't know about.
00:38:43It's fifteen years later and not necessarily for worse possibly for better
00:38:48we're slowly but surely electing to put ourselves in a virtual world.
00:38:51I also I want to mention something very positive about virtual reality one of the things it's being used for
00:39:06kind of like help condition him back into like oh yeah like I can you control this
00:39:11I'm in control of how I feel about this and help them relive it without like it being a
00:39:16nightmare without it being like an attack that they can like re kind of
00:39:20acclimate to how to survive through that thing. So I mean there's stuff like that and
00:39:25I also could see it being a thing for like cooking right where you're using an augmented reality and
00:39:30watching the show as you're like cutting the thing
00:39:32. Yes all kinds of educational tools like it now that you're all right
00:39:37and now that you're virtually doing it when I think about like Q. and A panels right one of the things
00:39:42that you go to a convention for is to you know go see somebody and ask them a question.
00:39:47Definite Well what about like if you know if Brunell floss or trends like these are still a thing in
00:39:51twenty years when they have the stuff down pat and we can host a Q. and A where everyone who
00:39:56comes to our Q. and A third home and we're at home but they've all got a front row seat.
00:40:00I mean imagine Dungeons and Dragons you could have your table go to like everybody sitting in four
00:40:05different states and you just have the thing in the middle of the table that everyone's looking into and they're going
00:40:15applications involve staying in one place and not running around swinging
00:40:20fakes or well maybe at some point what's needed is a button that.
00:40:23Immediately you know like even if it's just a lever that pulls up the
00:40:28screen off your eyes if you need to immediately see.
00:40:32I mean that's a well you don't let me say this. OK if you're listening scientists and I assume you
00:40:37are. Here's what we need right like transition lenses
00:40:37are. Here's what we need right like transition lenses
00:40:42that are photo and sound sensitive so that when you're using them if a
00:40:47sound happens in the room you're in or somebody walks in they immediately
00:40:51go clear.
00:40:51go clear.
00:40:53I feel like there's some kinks to work out because if you're in the middle of a really fun game or a really scary
00:40:58game the idea of it just stopping dead because one thing what if you have a cat you know if you're in a
00:41:02studio partner would you rather your gang get interrupted or somebody touches you on the
00:41:07shoulder and you shoot yourself I guess I hear what you're saying it just needs to be customizable and
00:41:17many years to come.
00:41:18If anybody's really interested in this kind of thing check out a book called Ready player one. I
00:41:23can't recommend it enough. The audio book version is read by Will Wheaton It's incredible. One of my favorite
00:41:27books.
00:41:29Check it out. Books still a thing.
00:41:38Now it's time for the wife five of the week. Each week we scour the internet for examples of people doing
00:41:43good things and being good people and we choose one of them to whom we'd like to give an Internet high five
00:41:48or five so this week's Y five is on the lighter side it goes out to
00:41:53an unnamed sousaphone player who is this massive
00:41:53an unnamed sousaphone player who is this massive
00:41:58sousaphone for the record is basically the type of tube that wraps around your body watching men
00:42:03tuba. Yeah yeah. Instead of just sitting in an orchestra.
00:42:03tuba. Yeah yeah. Instead of just sitting in an orchestra.
00:42:06So as you might imagine a lot of
00:42:11total winners in our country of the United States have been rallying around
00:42:11total winners in our country of the United States have been rallying around
00:42:16the Confederate flag or the flag that has been called of the Confederate flag
00:42:21. Not to get into that but basically like there was a K.K.K. rally in South
00:42:26Carolina and you know you can sometimes protest
00:42:26Carolina and you know you can sometimes protest
00:42:30angrily you can hold up a sign you can be kind of a squeaky wheel and that's fine.
00:42:35But this guy had a very specific and I think much more
00:42:40effective way to protest.
00:42:45He I mean he protested by trolling and I think this goes to show that trolling can be
00:42:49awful but it can also be a very good we will troll for girlies your
00:42:54powers of trolling for light.
00:43:40.
00:43:44Seems to be OK with one or two guys kind of looking at him like you know hey wait a second
00:43:49what are you doing with like others and.
00:44:00new so it sound like it sounds inherently silly
00:44:05and here's the thing here's what I love others I did a band in middle school I played
00:44:10trombone and I played baritone which is like a small team but also called you
00:44:15phony I'm and.
00:44:22thing one day I will use this power for good. That's why I was so impressed with
00:44:26this. This person had to like see the K.K.K. rally or like know was happening and go
00:44:31Oh my to move.
00:44:33Right right the moment I've been waiting for.
00:44:36And yeah like one time I was I was at a
00:44:41wedding but it was the night before we were on the hotel best friend's wedding and there was a prom
00:44:46in the hotel and there was a piano that I really wanted to play but it was near
00:44:50the prom and they had like rent a cops. So I was like I bet if I put on my tux for
00:44:55tomorrow I ll out they'll let me play the piano that's near this problem they're trying to
00:45:00block off. Well you know this cop had already told me to leave the area
00:45:05before then he walked away and then I started playing the piano and he was like charging in like a
00:45:10very purposeful March very like angry like I'm so mad that
00:45:15you're that you're defying me and I started playing the dragnet the while
00:45:20he was walking up to me by a bomb
00:45:22. Everybody laughs he looks like a fool and the thing is ultimately that was me kind of being a dick
00:45:27to a police officer this was using the power of music and
00:45:31comedy for the forces of good and in a nonviolent kind of
00:45:36awesome way and you know Brent to use it to protest the
00:45:36awesome way and you know Brent to use it to protest the
00:45:41K.K.K. rally takes a big brass ones.
00:45:45You are truly a grand wizard of comedy
00:45:47.
00:46:01we appreciate you. Yeah there it is like I'm not afraid to say it I don't care who knows it. I like
00:46:05you. Brent likes you. We think hey whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa I was not a nobody that
00:46:10I like you Brent is warming up to you. I mean you're growing on me. Yeah
00:46:10I like you Brent is warming up to you. I mean you're growing on me. Yeah
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00:47:43following us there's at bent thirteen thirty seven or maybe at leat
00:47:48at Kew plot device at R.C. Denly Bowers at Mott Naram
00:48:17Brent am I forgetting anything you help me get around my ass and say
00:48:23we've got to delete Brent. Ashley Madison profile even though he's not married so we'll see in a couple
00:48:27days.
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And The Children Shall Lead Commentary. What is the worst episode of The Original Series? Some say Spock's Brain, some say The Alternative Factor, but we all know the real answer...And The Children Shall Lead. In this episode of Standard Orbit, we provide a commentary on this infamous hour of TOS, so let us be your companions the next time you rewatch Attorney Melvin Belli try to take over the Enterprise. Ken is off shooting The Green Berets, so Zach has summoned Brandon the Friendly Cohost to join him for this journey of ring around the rosie, knives in space, rapid aging, and replicated ice cream. As you believe, so shall you do! Hosts Zach Moore Guests Brandon-Shea Mutala Feature Welcome to Standard Orbit! (00:01:08) And The Children Shall Podcast (00:01:44) And The Children Shall Lead Commentary (00:04:50)  Final Thoughts (00:55:39) Previously on Trek.fm (00:57:53) Thank You for Listening to Standard Orbit (00:59:02)   Production Zach Moore (Editor and Producer)  Ken Tripp (Producer) C Bryan Jones (Executive Producer) Matthew Rushing (Executive Producer) Ken Tripp (Executive Producer) Renee Roberts (Associate Producer) Norman C. Lao (Associate Producer) Aaron Harvey (Associate Producer) Nicolas Anastassiou (Associate Producer) Tim Robertson (Associate Producer) Richard Marquez (Associate Producer) Richard Marquez (Production Manager) Brandon-Shea Mutala (Patreon Manager)
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Today's listeners are afraid of holidays, perplexed by hair transplants, and worried about death by selfie stick. Find out more at http://answermethispodcast.com/episode322. Send questions to answermethispodcast@googlemail.com, or the Question Line (dial 0208 123 5877 or Skype answermethis)Tweet us http://twitter.com/helenandollyBe our Facebook friend at http://facebook.com/answermethisSubscribe on iTunes http://iTunes.com/AnswerMeThisBuy old episodes and albums at http://answermethisstore.com
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With Selfie Sticks increasingly getting banned at theme parks, museums and concerts, Jefferson Graham offers alternatives that will still get a large group of folks into the shot.
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00:00:11Disneyland became the latest theme park to ban the tech device everyone loves to hate. Joining
00:00:16museums concert arenas and sporting stadiums in getting rid of selfie sticks
00:00:21the tool to get more folks in your group photos has been cited as a safety concern and a
00:00:26nuisance that obstructs the view for others. But clearly we're still going to want to get
00:00:26nuisance that obstructs the view for others. But clearly we're still going to want to get
00:00:31group shots this summer right. So what to do. Well I've got a few ideas
00:00:35. Let's start with learning how to extend your arm just a little better for a good
00:00:40group selfie. Push out that arm and raise it as high as you can go. The upward move should
00:00:45get more folks into the frame. How about downloading some apps. There are
00:00:45get more folks into the frame. How about downloading some apps. There are
00:00:50just tons of them out there that will digitally alter your field of view and give you a
00:00:54simulated wider angle thus getting more folks into the shot. Why
00:00:54simulated wider angle thus getting more folks into the shot. Why
00:00:59Bengal selfie is free it has a burst mode to take four selfies in a row without you having to
00:01:04put your finger on the shutter while wide selfie has you take three different shots to
00:01:09get everyone in on the left middle and right and then it stitches them all together.
00:01:09get everyone in on the left middle and right and then it stitches them all together.
00:01:14Now those apps are for the i Phone for Android try pro capture which has a wide
00:01:19shot mode to expand the view. Now these apps will be helpful and no one's going to take your camera
00:01:24away but the image is not going to be as sharp as this is pretty much all digital magic to produce the
00:01:34accessory lens last week in the space I reviewed two new wide angle lenses that I really like
00:01:39from Moondog labs in a little clip I just got in others from M. cam light in
00:01:43his case that I'm looking at and I'll be back at you in July with a full review. The idea is that you
00:01:43his case that I'm looking at and I'll be back at you in July with a full review. The idea is that you
00:01:48put a good lens over your i Phone camera and it will greatly expand the point of view and make your
00:01:53smartphone videos and photos really come to life. The old clip which has a wide angle on
00:01:58one side also gives you a telephoto lens as well on the other side and it sells for just about one
00:02:03hundred bucks. The Moondog labs anamorphic lenses targeted towards video
00:02:03hundred bucks. The Moondog labs anamorphic lenses targeted towards video
00:02:08pros who want to complete a wide view that we've seen in the movies complete with black bars on the bottom and
00:02:12top. It sells for one hundred seventy five dollars and it looks fabulous. Now
00:02:12top. It sells for one hundred seventy five dollars and it looks fabulous. Now
00:02:17finally you could ditch the lens of apps in just spring for a new fifty dollar i Phone case
00:02:22which happens to stick to any service the antigravity case from a company called
00:02:27Make A tiny cork sticks the walls mirrors computer screens and the like. So just
00:02:31slap it up there turn on the camera and position all of you into the frame without having to
00:02:31slap it up there turn on the camera and position all of you into the frame without having to
00:02:36work your poor arm. So just because you can't bring yourself to stick to the theme park this
00:02:41summer doesn't mean you can't shoot selfies. You're just going to have to be more creative in how you snap
00:02:41summer doesn't mean you can't shoot selfies. You're just going to have to be more creative in how you snap
00:02:46them. What's your favorite selfie technique. Let's chat about it on Twitter where I'm at Jefferson
00:02:51Graham.
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00:01:30that the show We talk about everything that happens in technology
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00:01:35Today the Little Yesterday IMF emerging i'm Jes now you're probably a
00:01:40little bit Yesterday because it was one of those to his workers like the fighting but to
00:01:59done at the end of the month as Schengen are actually it will hopefully die down plenty
00:02:04of maximum because i've had those at this point now or i'm like maybe I need to take it. The
00:02:09battle over social media because I just get too worked up with everything that's happening right now is too much
00:02:28purpose. Some of the feature his ministry called for the term autopilot
00:02:34basically called out a pilot misleading when the features merely a driver assistance
00:02:38system and not a fully automated control of the vehicle that can apply and drivers can
00:02:43you know reduce their own awareness while they're using at Tesla justified the term in response
00:02:48stating that aerospace. This is use the term for decades and that the company made it clear
00:02:53from the start the driver should always pay attention while using this feature.
00:02:58Basically KB as a which is kind of the German Transport
00:03:03Association sent a letter to Tesla owners reiterating the drivers are required to
00:03:08provide constant attention to the road You know this really can't i'm comes down to
00:03:08provide constant attention to the road You know this really can't i'm comes down to
00:03:12consumer misunderstanding what you think I think it's a myth named . I was
00:03:17trying to like Little Christmas they were trying to be funny like and they were trying to be hyperbolic it's
00:03:17trying to like Little Christmas they were trying to be funny like and they were trying to be hyperbolic it's
00:03:22on a pilot but he You know when you're dealing with people safety and I get gas it's
00:03:27been used in the airline industry for decades but now it's a little harder to
00:03:32become an airline pilot than it is to get a driver's license also more things to hit
00:03:37while you drive. Car then when you're flying a plane so you know you do need to be
00:03:42paying attention and I think that to tesla's like
00:03:42paying attention and I think that to tesla's like
00:03:47to see in our stuff got them a meal on mosques Qt stuff got a Moan Little bit
00:03:51in trouble here and what people's lives so I think Yes they
00:04:00Arrows the be able to function in aerospace I understand why that's tesla's
00:04:05position and maybe I understand why they named it this is what I don't get about that is that the I
00:04:10would say the majority of people don't actually know what our pilot means an airplane they think they
00:04:10would say the majority of people don't actually know what our pilot means an airplane they think they
00:04:15know and maybe they're right maybe they're wrong. Long may be that you know like I don't even
00:04:20know exactly what the extent is of autopilot in the airplane so the name of that and say well people should
00:04:25know what it means because there's been an airplane for years none of US ever flown airplanes on how are we going to know
00:04:30the extent to which our pilot actually takes over all function of the plane Maybe It does but I think
00:04:34people how you all have different understanding of what that means and so. It's going to create confusion just for that
00:04:39reason alone I think that I mean I don't think that that's just what their lawyers are still Reich well they use it in
00:04:44the plane's them ran in a fried every code says Apple has
00:04:49hired a I expert Russ salad could not whose work focuses on neural
00:04:53networks voice and image recognition the New hire tweeted that he would be joining US. Well
00:04:53networks voice and image recognition the New hire tweeted that he would be joining US. Well
00:04:58as a director of Ai research he would continue his job as a
00:05:03professor of deep learning at Carnegie Mellon University and University is always look he's also looking to
00:05:17interested. You should define check out I think it's key and i'm guessing that Apple probably
00:05:22helped him or approved this Tweet he that he's saying i'm staying
00:05:27at Carnegie Mellon because that's the complaint that art that Uber and other big companies are getting their just
00:05:36researchers and using them for their Corporation. And so I think they were being careful about that
00:05:41i'm still going to be a professor don't worry i'm so Yeah I mean they they need to
00:05:46think they need to do better in Ai Apple does and I think part of the
00:05:55information in Ai research is based on sharing. Research with other people
00:06:00and that's how we learned I mean Walt Mossberg and recode's have a big
00:06:05article about you know kind of putting is because there's a step down saying Syria
00:06:10is Horrible when it comes to a lie. So I mean are the
00:06:14obviously Apple has a lot of work to do in comparison with some of the other competitors I find what's
00:06:19interesting about this is just kind of the challenge that seem to be looming for
00:06:38need there is no dollar amount that is too high for them to do this and so you know you take you you
00:06:43mentioned Uber for example they had a research packed with Carnegie Mellon last
00:06:48year and then follow that up earlier this year by hiring way four of the faculty and thirty
00:07:17places that we send you know are the people who get smarter not easy when they're
00:07:22all being pulled away to France. Samsung isn't just a phone
00:07:27company with battery issues Oh no it's also a chip company may just announced the New
00:07:32mexico's seven dual seventy two seventy chip for wearable devices for
00:07:32mexico's seven dual seventy two seventy chip for wearable devices for
00:07:37starters it's the first fourteen unarmed or Nana meter have never know how to say that man
00:07:42made or wearable process or affirm twenty eight animators before it. That makes it much
00:07:46much scholar of smaller in scale and not only does that ship manage WiFi Bluetooth and
00:07:51GBS some boards also packing support for Lt de and that ultimately
00:07:56altogether just kind of paved the way for a smaller footprint or actually respond
00:08:01watches that can shift to mobile networks without the need for an entire. A separate LTE
00:08:06chip taking up all that space inside the upper hand in nineteen I don't
00:08:26personally it seems that unnecessary to Me I mean I suppose there are applications where it might be useful if
00:08:31you you know and maybe that's in kind of in the exercise fitness realm of things but I would have my
00:08:36phone on Me so I don't ever really to I don't really care of attackers that's going give me a better battery life let's
00:08:41say GM I mean this is this. This is a good idea
00:08:46for people who want smaller smartwatches they want to use their watch as
00:08:46for people who want smaller smartwatches they want to use their watch as
00:08:51a sound but I mean I don't know like I know that like we said this before same Sun is a
00:08:55huge company and but I do I do feel like every time I read a Samson story
00:09:00now I feel like i've lost a little bit of trust in them in general You know not just. The fact that
00:09:05that i'm the fall You know the note seven catastrophe but how they handled it in
00:09:10only Cal they i'm You Know tried to cover it up how they did
00:09:15there they're testing so I don't know you know i'm just like OK will greet you have a new chip
00:09:20was actually made is not a prose dot amuse sell. I
00:09:25mean the fact that they have of fourteen men meter processor and
00:09:25mean the fact that they have of fourteen men meter processor and
00:09:30nothing is small and it does a lot so I guess we're where the disconnect comes from Me aside
00:09:34from all the battery stuff actually has to do with battery so Maybe It does kind of time they'll at
00:09:39least a little bit is the fact that consumers and wearables want a law.
00:09:44Dot like think a new rather all regret that think they want all of these
00:09:49things but really the reality of that doesn't match up to it right like in order to be able to do
00:09:59the small form factor watch that does all of these things but still small but still very good battery
00:10:04changes can have. All that now the strings this down smaller so maybe that makes
00:10:09room for a little bit larger battery let's say but I don't know if that's significant enough to get the
00:10:13footprint down to the point where everybody gets everything that they want not where we're at right now battery
00:10:28most popular and wearable so I don't know i'm it just seems to Me like they were looking for something to
00:10:33release as a look at what we've done good. It's good there's other about
00:10:38what's changed in her a little bit. Well Netflix reported third quarter
00:10:43earnings today with eighty six point seven four million current
00:11:07percent and extended training in response today's earnings report so you know
00:11:12when Netflix obviously We talk about a lot is really growing they had a little bit of a speed bump when they You
00:11:17know the first they raise their prices but then you know those of US would. And on the service for a
00:11:22long time were grandfathered in but then you know then we got grandfathered out
00:11:32Happy paying for it is not too much there's so much content I mean they talk
00:11:36about Stranger things the Narcos were like Big Big for than a lot of people want to watch
00:11:41those shows go on and then you know you look at like HBO which has West World which I Love
00:11:41those shows go on and then you know you look at like HBO which has West World which I Love
00:11:46and it's a great show but I. You can see how sort of Desperate HBO is
00:11:51to keep up with Netflix You Know like they have to have a show like that they have to
00:11:56have something as Big of game of Thrones because game of Thrones has an ending like that you know it's not going
00:12:10HBO should be afraid the Army Netflix and then their plan is just
00:12:15continue Rampages up faster faster faster what Netflix started doing a couple years ago when they started doing the
00:12:20explosives is they started to kind of tackle the criticism that was when
00:12:20explosives is they started to kind of tackle the criticism that was when
00:12:25the networks never has a library of movies that actually really want to watch. Paulina movies from the
00:12:29eighties and nineties and low Bloch and what they've done is they've really kind of targeting
00:12:39cable and there their content is quality enough to stand up to that
00:12:44statement and that time time again so a dollar price hike comes along of course people get up. But
00:12:48Ours because Nobody likes change but ultimately it didn't seem to affect really much of
00:12:53anything at all you know it's all still only nine ninety nine and feels I
00:12:58think a lot of people's mind perfectly justifiable when you have shows like Stranger things
00:13:03and these other really successful shows coming out proving the quality of their original
00:13:12and that they have and making it more compelling for that reason You just happen to get the other stuff thrown in
00:13:18and i'm in Maine as Reed Hastings or C L M said
00:13:22. In the scene in the movie theaters becoming that's also what Netflix is
00:13:32was quoted saying movie theaters are strangling the movie business You Know so it's their fault
00:13:37that we're You know not seeing better movies in the theaters and You know we talked a couple
00:13:41weeks ago that they're going to start showing some. And Netflix movies in a few theaters so that
00:13:46is going to be there I guess next thing to conquer them
00:13:46is going to be there I guess next thing to conquer them
00:13:52and I Wonder if down the line how much of a story it becomes or how
00:13:56much of an issue becomes as far as the threat to Netflix not computing Studios not competing
00:13:56much of an issue becomes as far as the threat to Netflix not computing Studios not competing
00:14:01companies or whatever but like daycare. Perhaps because we're not of You Know.
00:14:06So I mean Netflix relies on that day the Whatever You Know data plan
00:14:06So I mean Netflix relies on that day the Whatever You Know data plan
00:14:11is that you have at home or on a device or whatever it's incumbent on You having enough to
00:14:16support all that streaming content as we move higher resin all that kind of stuff are
00:14:46Robinson like you know what I don't want to watch anything Anthony more like that's not going to happen
00:14:51really start we were always one a Stranger things' R West world and will pay for whoever will give them to US
00:14:57but Yeah I mean it's too bad that that's where the the block is like can
00:15:06just in time for the. Those making holiday travel arrangements Google has improved Google flights to
00:15:11let users know when a given price is expected to expire and or
00:15:16go up so users can snap up those good deals before it's too late is also get a count
00:15:21down to the next price fluctuations as Wells the prize that it's expected to jump
00:15:26to just kind of proving even. More that and so much of this seems random behind the scenes but there's
00:15:31actually a lot of data behind it was also recommending alternate routes and dates
00:15:36when a user punches in a destination and tend to You Know save the most money basically
00:15:41based on historical data that last part kind of reminds me of a little bit
00:15:46of of one of My favorite years now. Navigation were going along and then it decides Oh well actually we could
00:15:46of of one of My favorite years now. Navigation were going along and then it decides Oh well actually we could
00:15:51save you ten minutes if we wrote You over here and that's actually a really good if you have flexibility in a
00:15:55schedule it's actually really great thing to have access to an app like this I suppose
00:16:00and there seems to be nothing on as I would love to have that's what i'm wondering is how they get
00:16:05around you know the the air. Mind because like a lot of airlines didn't want to give this
00:16:10day and that was a lot of these ads are running up into trouble because they weren't really saying that they didn't
00:16:15Want You Know that's how they make their money by charging people more of the time of day that they
00:16:54guesses that they're making but I mean Google is Big data company has access
00:16:59to a lot of data points will all over You Know so companies You Know You mention their competitors
00:17:04I mean who has more of this type of information are you know the computing behind the
00:17:19is rebranding its rumored car business but it may be too late for them to catch up
00:17:24ten Stevens from CNET spread show is here to give US his thoughts but first let's take a minute to think rocket
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00:18:46since twenty fourteen that Germann says the New Vision no longer involved Apple building its
00:18:51own heart but rather a self driving car platforms in a road. Shows Tim
00:18:56Stevens has his own thoughts on the topic and joins US today Welcome Tim.
00:19:01Our Kids so everything we know about project Titan is rumors at this point
00:19:16top of speculation but as mission is kosher marker which isn't about his great source and You can get so
00:19:20so Yeah so it's. Well You know we wrote some of this we're just creating but what does Your thoughts on
00:19:25the self driving car platform from app call based on these rumors
00:19:25the self driving car platform from app call based on these rumors
00:19:30tries to project was reportedly Apple wanted to build their own car and they
00:19:35wanted to be a fully autonomous car but according to these reports and ultimately
00:19:40determine that it's a building or car. Part of it I thought it was going to be suppressed prized so According to
00:19:45this latest report appearing on to develop an autonomous car solution they could use
00:19:45this latest report appearing on to develop an autonomous car solution they could use
00:19:50potentially their own corn the future but more likely be able to go to other manufacturers and sell to
00:19:54them so they basically accelerate on their own autonomous GM got a Chevy go to
00:19:59Ford and save Yours are Thomas Carper. For pay US money you can plug in Your car and you'll be good to
00:20:04go the problem This is all those manufacturers are already spending millions and millions if
00:20:04go the problem This is all those manufacturers are already spending millions and millions if
00:20:09not billions of dollars in developing their own autonomous solution so i'm a little bit
00:20:13skeptical that any of them are really going to want to go and piggyback with Apple here when they've all been
00:20:33editorial that I wrote today basically is what an example was more company that doesn't have hundreds of
00:20:38millions or billions of dollars to invest in this kind of research is so might need a little helping hand
00:20:43but even for those companies are already companies like Dell find more. Poli that are developing their
00:20:43but even for those companies are already companies like Dell find more. Poli that are developing their
00:20:48own independent autonomous solutions they could work with and partner and complex who
00:20:53are already have partnerships with companies like Delphi again it's a little bit difficult for me to
00:20:57imagine Apple really kind of nosing into this space and funnel a success unless they can compose
00:21:02something that's truly Revolutionary so along the way you know they've been all the. Is the bread
00:21:22former asked Martin chief engineer Chris pour It was was broad and was hired by.
00:21:27Apple to work on I mean one could only imagine working on this project and Insanely shape or
00:21:31form I mean if it's a pivot if it is such a was such a
00:21:36thing as what we're seeing here is a pit I mean does without affect kind of the
00:21:41working relationship with someone in that stature I mean coming coming in possibly to work on
00:21:51which can work in software it's cool . Hell Yeah. Definitely that puts
00:21:57all of those people that they pose shame Your neighbor enticingly offers to come to work in Cupertino
00:22:02You know that puts him in a very uncomfortable situation because they were brought on board to build one thing and You know if
00:22:06you are for example a vehicle dynamics and you're somebody who works on suspension
00:22:11if you're building a Carny more than that person really is needed anymore so that's what we're hearing. About a lot of
00:22:16layoffs and ultimately a lot of people just up and quitting because their jobs really
00:22:21are needed You know I i've definitely heard from people in the industry who would never going to record who
00:22:31develop an actual car and some of them went for something didn't but ultimately those
00:22:35that. It now are in a really uncomfortable situation but you know the Good News is there's a lot
00:22:40of automotive are indeed going on in the Silicon Valley area so Nice
00:23:00they find themselves not need them at all do you have any guesses tell why it's not working out
00:23:05like what went wrong there. I'm guessing there are as always a
00:23:10variety of factors that are kind of coming together but ultimately You Know building cars a really difficult
00:23:14thing and that's one the reasons I was very skeptical about this to begin with because it just seems like a Crazy thing for
00:23:19Apple want to get into You Know it's a hard thing to do safety regulations are incredibly
00:23:24complex especially if you're looking at the College went to the school bully. And the profit margins on
00:23:24complex especially if you're looking at the College went to the school bully. And the profit margins on
00:23:29these things are really Slim You know if you're making ten percent on a car you're doing really good and that's
00:23:34that's really not the kind of numbers and apple's looking for so it really seemed to make sense to
00:23:58together this is the the next best pass that they think they can go down and finally make
00:24:03some money off of this so early retirement having just hired an a I X.
00:24:08Parents and some of the trials that they've had within Ai is that you know there's such a secretive
00:24:13company and they don't share and so I do think that's part of the
00:24:13company and they don't share and so I do think that's part of the
00:24:18problem here like to see a lot of sharing among the Big companies when it comes to
00:24:22autonomous driving technology there actually isn't Unfortunately a limited amount of
00:24:27sharing going on there. Oro of very few Places in the world where companies are testing
00:24:27sharing going on there. Oro of very few Places in the world where companies are testing
00:24:32their autonomous cars together there's a place called him city in Michigan with shoes on the University Michigan
00:24:37campus where many factors can come together and test the cars together but even so very rarely
00:24:56chest income is like for that are relatively open with the number of cars
00:25:01they haven't this or technologies on the cars will really get frequent updates for them how that testing is
00:25:06going so you know certainly apple's been very. Very close door without the working and i've been
00:25:11confirming that this tape exist. Italy this aught proprietor testing going on as these
00:25:16manufacturers know the kind of why do it themselves they want autonomy to be kind of a stand
00:25:20alone feature or standup future for them that they can use to market their cars being better and safer
00:25:25and more advanced than others and for that reason that we want to work together they want to do on the road and they want to come up with a better
00:25:30solution than anybody else and everybody's convinced that they can do this. So obviously not it wasn't able to do
00:25:30solution than anybody else and everybody's convinced that they can do this. So obviously not it wasn't able to do
00:25:35that but there is a lot of enforcement project technologies are being developed of all this
00:25:40season is that there's an easier way forward possibly for them and he talked a little bit about
00:25:45that idea I think ultimately Apple really should just refocus and in
00:25:50redesign the interior of cars You Know we've seen some really cool stuff coming. Of car plate Android
00:25:55auto and it's a good first step but Auto in Tears or a lot more complicated than
00:26:00they need to be a lot more again proprietor than they need to be and when the iPhone came out It
00:26:05was really what the phone could do but it was how you could do it at Apple could bring that kind of fresh
00:26:14Q's in the all the other Horrible touch interfaces no Heaven cars they
00:26:19replace them with something that's truly intuitive and truly a pleasure to use that I think would be something
00:26:23that auto manufacturers would actually be really eager to partner up with Apple on versus this kind of
00:26:23that auto manufacturers would actually be really eager to partner up with Apple on versus this kind of
00:26:28technology that all these manufacturers are you doing on a rowing already convinced that they're doing better than anybody else
00:26:33so I think they would bring. In the actual experience of the dashboard and really bring together everything from
00:26:33so I think they would bring. In the actual experience of the dashboard and really bring together everything from
00:26:38immediate to Your climate controlled setting your current UAW cruise control everything else
00:26:43that I think could be something special so that Apple can really dominate on versus this really really
00:27:08said twenty Slash triangulation thanks so much for joining US and Thank You both for him.
00:27:14I had rarely writes about one of her shows last week says Kurt and Roberta or
00:27:19excellent gases Wells being informed right they both have that Wonderful dry sense of humor that you had
00:27:44And. Jail
00:27:49it you should not use that as a safe word. Dot the various
00:27:53. And then there was a Guy. You were in You Know.
00:27:58Yeah I won't have any more discussion of our same athlete Obama You know the word
00:28:02probably doing is you're safe where the Horrible things can have and up next we'll discuss
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00:30:50access joining US to discuss this is Denise Howell from this week in La has gone it's
00:30:55been great I Chase and I get to see you to start I guess. By telling US a
00:31:00little bit about what Forbes found in this Court filing from earlier May
00:31:10support of the issue and said the warrant that they had asked for and are
00:31:15federal criminal procedure. So there's a
00:31:20lot of backstory here that I find is really really fascinating.
00:31:25First and foremost being that Forbes is going through the Federal dockets
00:31:29in Lancaster California or the federal court that governs Lancaster
00:31:34California to add just suggest things like this out and even though
00:31:34California to add just suggest things like this out and even though
00:31:39this was way back in May the fact that they found it at all is it's sort of a miracle.
00:31:44Is to tells you how important Bad journalism is and journalists
00:32:00So basically what that what's the issue here is this
00:32:04idea that a warrant was issued to come in and essentially
00:32:09collects the fingerprints of everyone in order to gain access to all of these phones
00:32:09collects the fingerprints of everyone in order to gain access to all of these phones
00:32:14do justify the war in itself You Know It maybe You knew that it was
00:32:19a deserted city. Miller AM and what the government asked for here at Gate
00:32:23they had probable cause for a search warrant or are they argued they had probable
00:32:28cause they were granted their War and part of their request here though
00:33:02might be locked if you don't have the fingerprint. And so they they
00:33:07actually got a court to sign off on this and issue a warrant
00:33:12that would have required everyone in these promises to give a
00:33:17fingerprint to unlock whatever devices were so seated with them.
00:33:33hard to know that are not since we live in this
00:33:37adversarial legal system where a prosecutor might
00:33:42not know whether a court would find this constitutional or not a violation of the fourth Amendment
00:33:47or not I and might just going to court and sent up a
00:33:52balloon in this. See if it flew that this one flu so do we
00:34:16otherwise under seal and not available for public consumption and
00:34:20i'm so all we know is that a warrant was issued and this the various legal our
00:34:25arguments were submitted in support of the warrant and that's what forms reported on was Sad
00:34:35Fourth Amendment and fifth Amendment were not being violated here by.
00:34:40Asking for fingerprints from the people now a lot of legal advocates think the fourth
00:34:45Amendment and fifth Amendment we're certainly in play and it really
00:34:50points out the fact that you really don't know what you're going to get its
00:34:55kind of like the Forrest Gump problem You Do You get a prosecutor who
00:34:59decides to. Send up a travel agency with what they get from a judge.
00:35:05You need folks either like the efsf or you need
00:35:10Sad the people on the receiving end of these warrants to come in and
00:35:10Sad the people on the receiving end of these warrants to come in and
00:35:15say Hey we're going to challenge this legally because we think it's a rotten unconstitutional and
00:35:19and Unfortunately You know I mean this was somebody's residents all we
00:35:29happened we shouldn't serve with the War and we were under investigation unfairly
00:35:34we don't know any of the facts. To check that story or the government's
00:35:39bad but that's what they say and better Unfortunately doesn't seem like they had illegal Wherewithal or
00:35:44or the know how to reach out to people who might have challenged that warrant and push
00:35:49back on what the government asked for and got hear those stories like this kind of.
00:35:55I always kind of hymns comes around to explaining at least in technology discussions
00:36:00around what's actually happening here the difference between being compelled to unlock a device
00:36:05with a pin versus being compelled to unlock a device with bare metrics
00:36:10data like of like a fingerprint can you explain kind of the legal ramifications of
00:36:15why there are. Our differences their gas and out there for You met biometric data
00:36:15why there are. Our differences their gas and out there for You met biometric data
00:36:20by a charity that said. And Noah .
00:36:25Yeah I guess there's a difference and end that you might if you do a little googling
00:36:30out you might find stories telling you i'm definitely don't lock your phone or don't rely
00:36:35on locking your phone with a fingerprint because that's much more subject to
00:36:40being have forced to turn over someone. Goes to
00:36:44court and say Yes with the caviar at the caviar his
00:36:49courts are still getting their arms around all this and we are we have a split
00:36:54from state courts federal courts grappling with what you
00:37:09say that you should definitely secure if you're concerned about keeping
00:37:13the information on a device whether it's a computer or
00:37:18phone or anything else that you can unlock one of two ways
00:37:23biometrics Lee or with a code. A code is probably
00:37:28more likely to give you a little bit more run away. In a legal investigation
00:37:33because something that relates to Your body is not something the know end courts
00:37:38make that distinction again it's not universal there's not a whole lot of clarity on
00:37:43this that you're more likely to have to turn over something like a blood sample or a
00:37:48fingerprint then you are something that you know. Under the fifth Amendment which is
00:38:02that they talked to the in fact he said You know not only should they fed that
00:38:07had a warrant that snow says they could come in but says exactly what they're looking for. Or are the
00:38:12one that says they can look on people's phones but the warrant should say what they're
00:38:12one that says they can look on people's phones but the warrant should say what they're
00:38:17looking for and then there should be a way just to look at that part of the
00:38:22phone I mean is that something that you've seen of talked about about how
00:38:37involved in this case are the people who were facing the warrant had
00:38:41had the ability to bring a lawyer maybe it's not yet who could who could
00:38:46fight the warrant and contest is over Prague thats what they would argue they would've said.
00:38:46fight the warrant and contest is over Prague thats what they would argue they would've said.
00:38:51That look You need to limit this down we don't know when you're on a fishing expedition we don't know what you're looking for You and
00:38:56said what you're looking for you're just saying that you think it might be there
00:39:21contacts their photographs whatever i'm that that might be relevant
00:39:26to an investigation or might be completely off limits and benefits.
00:39:31Getting into material that is not actually needed for their investigation
00:39:37as someone could make the argument that Yes that it should be walled off and not
00:39:41examined. Well Denise Howell AMO is a pleasure to be on the show thanks for coming on to
00:39:46tell everyone about the story and obviously are all over the network is well you've got
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00:44:10important part of the University of California Irvine ran a study were forty one students
00:44:14snap selfies and then lodged their mood over the course of four weeks straight.
00:44:14snap selfies and then lodged their mood over the course of four weeks straight.
00:44:20Only course that study students felt happier and more confident even if that Selfie
00:44:25should a fake smile on their face so really I think what they what they realized it probably
00:44:30has less to do with this the Act of taking a selfie and more to do with just this like
00:44:35regular repeated requirement of smiling and I would imagine. So what I'd
00:44:40like to go to UC Irvine Thank You. And You know There Goes the
00:44:45UC Irvine is depressed or Sad or Happy. Yeah I don't
00:44:50know I mean I guess that makes sense to Me If You If You portray yourself as
00:44:50know I mean I guess that makes sense to Me If You If You portray yourself as
00:44:55happier over time maybe that has a direct influence over your actual state of being what do
00:45:00you think i'm definitely heard that research that smiling makes you happier You Know fake
00:45:19people happy I would argue that movie study for
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00:00:01Chipotle kalw and how to be a girl comes from kept a curry are standing for
00:00:06gender equality for their employees community and society cupcake Royale
00:00:31so easy as.
00:00:42Extra just turn. I always wanted to be a mother
00:00:47Fi think Dave have never doubted it
00:00:57but anyways yeah I like the other women in my family . And I had no
00:01:01problem getting pregnant right and then I had an easy pregnancy that he would be a
00:01:06wonderful straightforward delivery and ended up with a beautiful
00:01:11healthy baby a week which he should show
00:01:16some lucky to help fill some smooth . Four
00:01:16some lucky to help fill some smooth . Four
00:01:21on according to plan and Milan a minivan.
00:01:26It'S going to be different from my daughter. She hasn't got a one
00:01:32or any of the other parts needed to be a biological mother. And the hormones
00:01:37she will likely take. Will render her infertile as a man.
00:01:44When I realized this a layer of sadness moved into my life
00:01:44When I realized this a layer of sadness moved into my life
00:01:49and hung around like a dark far. I'D like to be
00:01:54able to say the sadness was all or even primarily
00:02:00on my daughters pout. But I can't. I grieve
00:02:05for myself. It was official. I
00:02:09wasn't going to be a grandmother. At least not a
00:02:14biological one. He is.
00:02:29like this what do the movie when I watch my mother with her
00:02:34grandchildren honest I see something that I want your love
00:02:38again. Yeah I know she loves her three children to this is one of
00:02:48Dr Letitia I think it's calm plants
00:02:53face of like a fly story I want to tell all my friends about it.
00:03:01I was very close to my own grandmother least thirty feet tall
00:03:05she doted on me and the other five grandkids this is just a wonderful
00:03:10soul. Just how well and she delighted in nine great grandchildren
00:03:31Do you think she found out I was pregnant and she told me
00:03:36she'd be sure to stick around a little while longer pull in so she
00:03:41could meet my child before she left us we were always well
00:04:28. They are at least not in the old fashioned biological
00:04:33. A new layer of sadness settled
00:04:38in. It was for her this time that for me
00:04:48start to get into our sadness for the day she realized how this are
00:04:53actually worked and it wasn't going to work in her case or I
00:04:58am the first hour. And why. I knew I needed to tell
00:05:13too. Hoisting being pregnant it always
00:05:17starts Sunday it would just be amazing to carry a child and I mean I
00:05:22met Molly at our support group and wanted to experience that's so bad her daughter is
00:05:37we couldn't have children. I still go back and mourn that I still
00:05:42have dreams about being pregnant or finding out and pregnant who wake up and you know our a
00:05:46kind of wish that it happened and then you sad and I'm sad
00:05:46kind of wish that it happened and then you sad and I'm sad
00:05:51mali's a cellular biologist and fascinated with life in
00:05:56general and and and science and your own experience. With infertility it's led her
00:06:01to start studying the science of reproduction years she was even more motivated seeded
00:06:27And dwelling on the details just seemed pointless and depressing
00:06:32like a reporter questioning the losing teams coach about why his guys
00:06:36lost. Having answers wouldn't change the
00:06:45understanding is that he very activates fertility right Molly confirmed what
00:06:50I already knew. Which was that in order to have a shot at reproducing
00:06:56my child would have to forgo taking estrogen. Through male
00:06:56my child would have to forgo taking estrogen. Through male
00:07:00puberty your facial hair would start to grow allowing testosterone to do
00:07:05is powerful and irreversible work on her body your voice a job that you get a
00:07:10different kind of musculature than girls to become apparent my daughter would
00:07:10different kind of musculature than girls to become apparent my daughter would
00:07:15first need to become a man and least physically there would be allowed. The
00:07:20differences that would be very masculine never forget the conversation I had with my
00:07:25child when she was just four years old. Then she
00:07:29realized she might grow a beard I could add. She was
00:07:34horrified. To reassure her I told her there
00:07:53years since my daughter learned about them. Person that could stop her from
00:07:58growing a beard like dad. Ever since then every
00:08:03few months she asks me about this medicine. So really
00:08:08were. Is it time to start taking it in but what's
00:08:13interesting is then Molly started saying these other thing have a friend who's
00:08:18studies fertility in women an amazing change actually she studies and cows
00:08:23apparently had given signs of change is she said well you need to
00:08:28look at what. What they're doing now is a pediatric cancer patient it
00:08:33turns out that young kids with cancer face the same issue is trans kids
00:08:38medical interventions like chemotherapy can damage their ovaries and
00:08:43testes. Before they've had a chance to go through puberty so now there's a
00:08:48lunch people thinking OK how can we preserve their fertility I sat there with my mouth
00:09:17Girl. Who.
00:09:25Molly told me that researchers were working on a way to carry out the hearing
00:09:29process inland the idea is to save some of the tissue
00:09:54that they lived in and they are in the male body but doing in the lab and if everything worked
00:10:00you'd end up with a viable sperm. I'M smart and for listening in the lab from one
00:10:04moment to the next the impossible and produce children had become
00:10:09possible move but that was just the beginning in Mali went on to
00:10:14tell me about more signs that sounded a lot like magic basically ideas taken
00:10:19a minister were to start making . Mind blowing yeah fleeting
00:10:23something that could've been on that was supposed to become a mouse take any meat and two other
00:10:29men mostly talked about stem cells found in our bone marrow . And how
00:10:34exciting the cells are to medical researchers because they have the capacity
00:10:39into becoming other types of cells . Detectives and maybe
00:10:44even reproductive cells they cool but if we can take as an adult
00:10:44even reproductive cells they cool but if we can take as an adult
00:10:49decided hey I really want to be a period of just takes some bone marrow an old expelled
00:10:53. Now a a and she talked about uterine
00:10:57transplants literally taking the annual risk and now
00:11:13tree of twenty years us to. We'Re killing kids hopefully twenty years so the like twenty nine
00:11:18maybe they'll be around you know the normal . But what
00:11:23is sort of creepy. It.
00:11:55That any of these scenarios will come to pass for my daughter but that's OK.
00:12:01This isn't about having a guaranteed path to fertility for my child.
00:12:06No woman gets a guarantee even the girls born with ovaries.
00:12:13What I'm looking for is a change there's something about having
00:12:18even a kernel of hope yeah the chance on the other kids
00:12:22and their parents. Assume they're getting so I don't have to tell her
00:12:32chance that the parents of cancer patients are seeking know it's more like
00:12:37OK we can do some things and it might happen maybe
00:12:42my child can have this. Just maybe if
00:12:47it has all the laces that I
00:13:29than I once thought she had her version of the birds and bees
00:13:34is still going to be a lot more complicated than mice.
00:13:40So I kept on drinking my feet on talking to her about it.
00:14:02It was stuff like what I want to talk to our living room and
00:14:07enormous so much I need to marry a girl the
00:14:12day without this I didn't know even thinking about what can I
00:14:12day without this I didn't know even thinking about what can I
00:14:17make just a bit. I don't think it's
00:14:22funny if you want to pick another first for
00:14:22funny if you want to pick another first for
00:14:27have a girl to of the woman when you grow up then you've had
00:14:32your sperm or. Probably. When I
00:14:37get angry at the world. It'S for forcing me to have conversations like
00:14:41this with my daughter. That. At
00:14:46least now I could give her a little scrap of hope the things scientists are
00:14:51working on some new ways to make the whites still not much.
00:15:06that they figure out some ways the bill once again. I reach the limits of what my
00:15:11love for my child can do. And I can give her is a truce
00:15:16were reading what hostilities . But I.
00:15:22I can tell you this when he want to have kids. You will.
00:15:29Adoption is a wonderful way to become a pair. It'S
00:15:34a lot different to add up to. I would be very happy
00:15:39if you are the author of hubris that moment whatever kind of way became a
00:15:44mom I'd be happy for you and I would love your baby or UK.
00:15:49So much which I'd rather run like Graham would you
00:16:48The AV. The. I
00:16:53like actually in failing in short of age because a
00:16:58name for every night to
00:17:01God. The us today.
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00:00:23phrase can I help you can be told that in different ways we can
00:00:28be. Can I help you. Which is a true honest way of doing that or if you're in a
00:00:33place where maybe you shouldn't be or perceive you shouldn't be you might get the
00:00:38can I help you which is anything but wanting to help.
00:00:44So I was doing the shooting last night at Ford. It can mean anything. Yeah it could. Right right right.
00:00:49This actually Rob Schneider used to have a bit before he became very successful or sort
00:00:55of the beginning with success he was on the Letterman show and did this whole routine about the different ways you
00:00:55of the beginning with success he was on the Letterman show and did this whole routine about the different ways you
00:01:00can say dude in all the different meanings behind dude. It's a very funny bit.
00:01:06But I had the dick hot dichotomy of help on our shoot. So we did a shoot
00:01:11at a hotel in Los Angeles of which we had
00:01:17my our client had paid for her room and so the all the stuff and we were in a lobby or butting in
00:01:22in an area that literally no human was walking through. I mean nobody zero.
00:01:22in an area that literally no human was walking through. I mean nobody zero.
00:01:28And they actually moved a giant like overstuffed chair out of our way so we could you know operator or she were doing
00:01:34interviews and all my shooter had
00:01:34interviews and all my shooter had
00:01:39was a tripod in in an area of which there was also
00:01:44an area eight feet wide for people to walk by by the tripod so
00:01:50two different people from the hotel come up to us and
00:01:55they want to put the tripod down because they think it's a fire hazard. I
00:02:01go to what to who. Like it was when we have insurance issues and all the stuff and like there
00:02:01go to what to who. Like it was when we have insurance issues and all the stuff and like there
00:02:06is no one walking here no one not a human. Now the complete
00:02:12flip side of it and we're like What is wrong with people that that they have to find a problem
00:02:17that is finding a problem that is not a problem. So we were just kind of the thought of like someone's
00:02:23getting upset about the same two issues to comment about it. Second we
00:02:28were shooting construction sites in Los Angeles and usually when we shoot construction sites we we like kind
00:02:33of find the opening construction started shooting inside or we're kind of cross the street and we would maybe be
00:02:38in a parking lot and shoot down but we never actually go on the construction side. Well
00:02:44my shooter was there shooting a construction site. The security guy was so
00:02:49forthcoming if they let me get your hard hat and a vest How do you sign a release form and then
00:02:54took him around the entire construction site so we could shoot we had no set up for this
00:02:54took him around the entire construction site so we could shoot we had no set up for this
00:02:59or anything we just kind of appeared he was unbelievably helpful so I just
00:03:06when you see someone who needs help go out and really help them but don't be a hindrance as Mike's
00:03:11story is that I have here which I was just so amazed at like how helpful that guy was
00:03:11story is that I have here which I was just so amazed at like how helpful that guy was
00:03:16and how a pain in the butt that hotel was unnecessarily
00:03:22so. Yet seems like the guy should be flipped like the guy who's like at a construction
00:03:27site who's looking after your health to a place he could probably die. He's on the more likely
00:03:32to be a pain because he didn't you know I don't have let me tell you. And then pray tell shit like
00:03:38was it a nice hotel I should be doing are you confident or to like make your life better yet.
00:03:43Well not only that it's not like we just randomly showed up the working poor was had
00:03:43Well not only that it's not like we just randomly showed up the working poor was had
00:03:48paid an enormous amount of money to be a vote
00:03:54and really pay this concert and cite anything you know like we're just happy to be there so you know normally
00:03:54and really pay this concert and cite anything you know like we're just happy to be there so you know normally
00:04:00construction sites. Either they just completely ignore you or they tell you to go away but
00:04:06the Go away has been rare we've only had that happen a couple of times nothing are not uncommon.
00:04:11You know we have our first story is the story of France but let's go Straight to Mark Mehran first and then that's
00:04:11You know we have our first story is the story of France but let's go Straight to Mark Mehran first and then that's
00:04:17OK We can talk Mark Mehran So you did listen to the interview I did I loved it I thought it was a fantastic
00:04:22interview. I think issues like the power of the long form
00:04:39sure you've watch it get half hour interview with him and go rile you. But that's just so
00:04:44tense. Yes You know it's just not a proper station know it
00:04:49and I felt the two things that I learned from that interview was one how
00:05:11just how proud he is of his two daughters and understandably and obviously so
00:05:16but it was just a great interview and I thought Mark Murnaghan so very very well in
00:05:21the whole thing now did you also listen to the flow of pod cast where they talked about the whole experience
00:05:21the whole thing now did you also listen to the flow of pod cast where they talked about the whole experience
00:05:27I have to do that that's exciting. I didn't even know there was one but to your point about just
00:05:32you know point out pieces about it from this interview in like kind of giving insights into his life I mean just his
00:05:32you know point out pieces about it from this interview in like kind of giving insights into his life I mean just his
00:05:39exchanges with his daughters who are growing up and like you know how it's been a bit of a stressful for them
00:05:44because they get tired of the six you know six Secret Service detail when they go over to friends for sleep overs and
00:05:49he's like he's like he tells his daughters and if you think I'm driving going to pick you up over
00:05:54your friends after like an eight out you're crazy honey I just
00:05:59kind of that. Inside it is why I though I doubt very specific
00:05:59kind of that. Inside it is why I though I doubt very specific
00:06:05of the wife and the developer I do I care about it being a teenager growing up in that environment trying to
00:06:10grow up as a normal teenager it's not easy you know a little bizarre
00:06:15to say the least. But no I I think but I mean can you remember I don't
00:06:15to say the least. But no I I think but I mean can you remember I don't
00:06:21remember a time where a president of a sitting president had a conversation with another
00:06:26person or just seems like to do is get it in there and it came off just like that to do just
00:06:31that men are talking about. They could've been having a beer. You don't get that like everything I mean just
00:06:36remember how in this isn't a comment on Bush but he seems so programmed
00:06:41especially through the end of his nose and I mean every every and every word was told managers so measured and
00:06:41especially through the end of his nose and I mean every every and every word was told managers so measured and
00:06:46you know that he was speaking to his politics have to like he priced out there's a lot of pressure on him to make sure every
00:06:52word was said the exactly the right way for fear of it you know kind of inaccurate in
00:07:02this and barn ish interview with Marc Mero and with Marc Mero trademark style
00:07:07it was just it was a great lesson. I so highly wrote. Whether you listen to Marc Mero not
00:07:13just listen to this one interview with the president I believe you can just go to the. There's also a Web site
00:07:18that the sponsor Squarespace had set up. Mark meets Obama
00:07:18that the sponsor Squarespace had set up. Mark meets Obama
00:07:23dot com And as it was a total years the you the photos.
00:07:28So you don't even have to subscribe you can just go to that site and listen to the interview it's just it's just over an hour the whole thing but
00:07:45Marin through the website you know I do year ago so
00:07:51this started a year ago this whole process and so they just talk about the whole process the whole process.
00:07:56Secret Service showing up and tending the house and on and all the different random things that went. No we
00:08:06ten minutes I don't know if you so did you see the news they came out after the interview.
00:08:12So I think a lot about they just focused a lot actually. I wondered as well as on
00:08:18the fact of these and then word in every criticism decontextualized the
00:08:44and both of them their only reaction they didn't hear it was oh no but I read that he said
00:08:50yeah and so will they all go in there. Yeah that's a take that's a
00:08:55whirl of them I know and I just when I heard there was a call by God That's not the story
00:09:00but that's the story that gets out there it's the story that you know a certain
00:09:06segment the media just want you to take away. That's all you totally. Well here's the
00:09:43Johnson saying the word on television and that would desensitize went from thinking
00:09:48well maybe not that would do the opposite but but the irony that he referenced the president to desensitize
00:09:53a word now today we have a president saying the word which now it it desensitizing it just and
00:09:59I love everyone. As advice for him and criticism for me about how should I say this order white
00:10:05like everyone is so critical
00:10:11or way people when I know it's Tuesday has been crazy but don't know if
00:10:17it's so annoying. All right so let's move on.
00:10:33so entertaining so excited and he's God's gift to comedians
00:10:39in just watching just getting reaction to him is just kind of putting a fine
00:10:44point on how much I'm going to miss John store just seeing his reaction to this thing. We're
00:10:44point on how much I'm going to miss John store just seeing his reaction to this thing. We're
00:10:49recording this on a Saturday will have this dropping like next middle next week who knows
00:10:54what would trump will do Pertwee felt that bad like physically after his Because
00:11:05of Mexico. Like I
00:11:10said So you know you don't do that as the president I read somewhere as a headline as a drive by headline for me.
00:11:16Someone said he's second in the polls or some point is that going to the polls that can't be possible that
00:11:21well because he has the only well known name Bush and the nobody knows any of the other names
00:11:26but it is creating this out of there and now he won't
00:11:31let a staff member of Univision on one of his property is
00:11:38using some of just like oh by God he's so he's so crazy and
00:11:38using some of just like oh by God he's so he's so crazy and
00:11:44Graeme Swann to be president if I didn't I was if I was a worry for the country I'd want to be president of entertainment value.
00:11:50Well I don't think it's a years ago when I was doing thin if I had a job similar to about
00:11:55Ross Perot and I would you know like commit to Donald Trump. I said you know we should just all
00:12:09so funny listening to trump and then also going back to the mark Barron interview with Obama. Those
00:12:14two people could not be on on travellin in top form or three. Contrast
00:12:20was just amazing and I didn't intervene. Yeah and you know Trump is part
00:12:25of I think what's driving Travers I think Obama personally dissed in that the president the president's
00:12:31Preston or like four or five years ago he actually insult them like Trump was
00:12:36an audience and I think that's got to be driving them. I mean you know what like. Well
00:12:41he's you know he's so public we talk to our home page but this week for Obama
00:12:47has been off the charts picked up your spectacular. He got I mean
00:12:52again we're going to toss it to set and encourage anyone who has a listen to me for
00:12:57though you have out there that there are snipers are listening to and it's well worth it. So it's
00:13:03just just huge huge huge for the president. All right. We've waited thirty minutes just
00:13:08talking about that. Let's get into it get into some facts or it will
00:13:13get we can burn through these the French government is trying to shut down you know there were protests the
00:13:13get we can burn through these the French government is trying to shut down you know there were protests the
00:13:19Suppose a year ago that the French government found it illegal the service and
00:13:26Hoover is trying to work a way around it. EADS the name of the service out there is a pop and
00:13:32you know I actually saw a big protest of which Courtney Love was involved very high
00:13:37violence between the the taxis and Hooper and I've
00:13:43never thought it would degenerate into this I think that my mention of an earlier pocketed I've met one of the founders
00:13:48of Hoover like four years ago at a bar and my reaction was Well good luck in through
00:13:53the you know the sort of the unionization of the taxis but
00:14:41I was going to wanted to tour the impressionist museum you know where they have all the you
00:14:47know the the door say that or say that I was and and the whole week we can go because
00:14:52the the janitors Union was on strike and I mean and
00:14:52the the janitors Union was on strike and I mean and
00:14:58you know no commentary on that I'll just like it is going to show me that in early age whether they have a strong
00:15:03hold on a lot of parts of society over there. Yeah yeah. Well
00:15:10let's move on. OK I want to I like I like if you have a treasure trove what is
00:15:15the treasure truck. Someone described it as a pirate truck but with
00:15:20treasure like a pirate ship or treasure and it's on the truck and you know
00:15:26it's called the treasure kits from Amazon and it's on its way. I'm super excited. Kind
00:15:31of like it's almost like ice contract for adults to me and one of the cool things villainously
00:15:36I don't think you get to see the crazy Amazon ideas first and it's literally just a truck that
00:15:41drives around Seattle it's like insane deals in the first one is a and
00:15:47I'm pretty excited about this. My wife for the wanting us a paddle paddle board for a while
00:15:53and their first deal is a stand up inflatable paddle board set for ninety nine dollars retail price for close
00:15:58to five hundred dollars. But it's so all school in a
00:16:03way. So the idea is that it's kind of like a movable woot if you will. Yeah
00:16:08I mean you were like the bookmobile how exciting book like when
00:16:08I mean you were like the bookmobile how exciting book like when
00:16:14I came I must say that I like the ice cream truck a lot. Yeah and I had like my kids like
00:16:20it been years they remembered I ski trip I'm a neighbor of Mike and I like that like about a week ago that I had heading
00:16:25the core of my son and I heard that I should track like this Kristie kind of like vanity like a kidnapper
00:16:31van was like the stickers on site. I didn't care I
00:16:41see a little a little kid could pop his head out of the door make the dad was driving and the kid is like now
00:16:47how do you figure that was the dad in the kid or not. I guess I should
00:16:52say he seemed pretty happy to be handing us a screw you know because well because I
00:16:58guess they should allow for the note in the ice cream bar that if I don't think that into the van
00:16:58guess they should allow for the note in the ice cream bar that if I don't think that into the van
00:17:03with the scribbled notes help me on an ice cream cone a rapper now.
00:17:08But yeah so I'm just you know ideas are just going to have one item on the treasure truck that I'm way
00:17:13below market value. Yeah and it's tied into their apps like you have to have Amazon Apple like it'll tell
00:17:18you where to go. So it's just a really fun promotional idea
00:17:24I think is a great idea. Yeah. Boy they're going to great crowds and exactly
00:17:29the locks in the videos are you know it's really fun silly promotional
00:17:29the locks in the videos are you know it's really fun silly promotional
00:17:36idea I think is a good idea. That's cool. Treasure the treasure to a very fun idea.
00:17:41Hate Now this this next thing the Google undo send feature which is something that
00:17:41Hate Now this this next thing the Google undo send feature which is something that
00:17:46I thought they had a while ago. This has been easily for eight years it's my favorite thing yet so why is this kind of a big
00:17:52new thing I'm trying to understand how it went from so you know when you can
00:17:57and knows the ins and outs of Google Mail G. Mail they have labs which people. Could create these experimental
00:18:02Rogan's or features and it's kind of a when he graduates from being in Google
00:18:08Labs thing to make an official feature. That's what's happened and so there I think
00:18:08Labs thing to make an official feature. That's what's happened and so there I think
00:18:13that's why it was in the news but I've been using it for like at least a couple years now I don't care to
00:18:18have it have to save my bacon just sending it something and then realizing you have someone
00:18:18have it have to save my bacon just sending it something and then realizing you have someone
00:18:23on there that you don't or you said the wrong thing or you forgot the attachment hidden did
00:18:28send I don't know whether you have a delay for thirty seconds I have a mash out in a minute because I can as I just do it
00:18:33or they may offers and I go well like if I want a man but there's also the time where
00:18:38you're on a call like you have a schedule call like someone's waiting for your Power Point presentation
00:18:44or whatever and I hit send I said it will be there in a minute. Like because I don't I like avoid
00:18:49this because I don't you know that's not good. But
00:18:54no yet I think that I understand. Here's the other thing people don't realize how many years G. Mail was in beta.
00:19:00I mean it wasn't like beta for like seven years for me can seem ludicrous it was a beta forever and people were using
00:19:06it as a regular product but yet it was a beta product for so long is first broke I remember getting like
00:19:11like having asking for an invite for biggest four I got my G. Mail invite.
00:19:11like having asking for an invite for biggest four I got my G. Mail invite.
00:19:17But at the time you had to know someone and they'd have had to send you an invite or that. Yeah
00:19:25all right let's move on Fred Wilson. So people who are in
00:19:30the tech community people are especially interested in venture capital. His
00:19:35peers blogs like the go to blog thread was and a B. Fun dot com I think he's kind
00:19:40of like up there with Andresen centers like D.C. that people kind of all every word hang
00:19:40of like up there with Andresen centers like D.C. that people kind of all every word hang
00:19:45on every word and he wrote a piece I thought was pretty good about
00:19:50how he's getting sick of seeing business plans and pitches from startups that focus only
00:20:12the first Internet boom just focus on group growth worry about profitability later he's just getting tired of it. He says you don't
00:20:17have to first say profitability or the very least even if you're going for growth early on another in the loop
00:20:23losing money you should think about your path to responsibility and think that's a great point. And the English were starting to
00:20:28think about that. Well it's interesting there's an event here in San Francisco called as a new
00:20:33tech and the very first it's an event where startups
00:20:33tech and the very first it's an event where startups
00:20:38get up and present their company they have five minutes to demo it in the mirror five minutes a question from the audience and the first
00:20:44question that is always asked of the audience and now they don't even bother they just sort of ask the question right at the beginning or
00:20:49they go to the audience is how are you going to make money is always a question how you can make money how to make
00:20:54money and so this is become such a sort of standard
00:21:00thing because you know if you remember the dot com boom no one thought about making money and mean no
00:21:10I mean was ludicrous and it was the revenue model was just sell sell the business not make
00:21:15money ourselves or complain about that like most of these B. she's mostly
00:21:20start to think about OK how do I get from my leader Messire day to the next round and
00:21:26then how do we sell like that like I feel the mentality. No yeah I know I'm well aware of.
00:21:32OK now how we pursue or how many years have you had Netflix way longer than you my friend.
00:21:37Since the ninety's I don't want to use a disc only thing I know
00:21:42I don't want to just going to call it was it in the ninety's when I could I mean I haven't had
00:21:47it. I had in Arizona and I moved to Seattle back to Seattle. I think that about
00:21:53thirteen fourteen years so I had it around two thousand two thousand and one maybe.
00:21:58Yeah yeah that's what I mean. Most people didn't get it I think until it became like
00:21:58Yeah yeah that's what I mean. Most people didn't get it I think until it became like
00:22:04a streaming thing alive. No I had D.V.D.'s for many many years many many years ago I think was maybe fourteen
00:22:09years I've had I've had it for a long time but I'm not a T.V. a user anymore I barely barely used but you know the
00:22:15beam of the price is so low you know I never think to get rid of it but they are claiming
00:22:31here and you correct me if I'm wrong and I kind of threw it out there to my friends on Facebook and there's sort of conflicting
00:22:37views some believe it some don't. But according to their math and I'm just sort of isolated there's a lot of numbers here
00:22:42but they claim that the average Netflix user is watching
00:22:42but they claim that the average Netflix user is watching
00:22:47two hours per day per subscriber per day so that means also if you have a household
00:22:53the total household could be watching you know two hours per day of the thing that seems like a lot.
00:22:59Because I definitely do not watch two hours per day like what do you think I
00:22:59Because I definitely do not watch two hours per day like what do you think I
00:23:04mean it's you know wealth of your day right. I haven't on Avenue like really
00:23:09read to this and absorb it. I don't know either because I watch maybe ten hours a month
00:23:14on Netflix at most then needs to take up my flak other people are watching
00:23:14on Netflix at most then needs to take up my flak other people are watching
00:23:20three to four hours a day. After this I don't watch much T.V. like most of what I watch netflix
00:23:25and i go watch a series like an episode or a night a day so like for me
00:23:31but this kind of I was down for like me having the T.V. on for three hours watching like a marriage game so
00:23:36I think with that if anything's going to make this is not true it's like live sports because that's
00:23:36I think with that if anything's going to make this is not true it's like live sports because that's
00:23:42what I think consumes a lot of like a Liberian timer like you know Beutel on Fox for example.
00:23:47Well I just don't watch two hours of T.V. a day and I'd like to but there is here's my frustration.
00:23:53I on Sunday and it is just my own personal overwhelm
00:23:58and with the Sunday I bought myself a download. Really cool new little difference actually old it's been
00:24:03around for a while the horizon to driving. And I still want to play the darn thing so
00:24:09it's not that I don't I don't have time for T.V. or to play the game that I've paid for either but
00:24:14I think this week and I will quote you're busy I had to really making money my friend. I know
00:24:19I know some of us make. All
00:24:25right let's get into the next story with word of mouth but I didn't realize the viewing of this film. Do you have a selfie
00:24:31stick not on itself it's a personal I actually I've only one theme one
00:24:36up close and personal. Someone else showing me their selfie stick which sounds a little crude doesn't
00:24:41it. Well yeah I mean my wife got one as a gift because
00:24:47she her friend who knew she was going to New York and actually if you go on a kind of occasion or
00:24:52two way to Hawaii or something like it actually makes sense to bring one even though they
00:24:57decide to mock people who have felt that way and
00:25:07news came out this week that they banned. Yeah they look for them at security I mean that's
00:25:13where I saw Tom one thousand is a couple months ago Mike or so many of them and like it's always someone
00:25:18the ruins of for another person. Like it means like that's the rule of everything right. Because that one person
00:25:18the ruins of for another person. Like it means like that's the rule of everything right. Because that one person
00:25:23wrote that and so I think well it wasn't so in here's the clarification they didn't have a problem
00:25:28people having stealthy sticks on the grounds of Disney. The problem was the people taking them
00:25:39So it was after one person took it over I think they got the big mountain you know railroad roller
00:25:45coaster and they said you know either way at the peak they were taking a selfie and it's like now forget
00:25:50it were you know you know on roller coasters like those where they take a picture of you make used to
00:25:56actually have people there and guard against you taking pictures of the pictures like remember that. Like
00:26:01when you were to go I don't know that but I do know that if you because they want you to pay twenty dollars for the picture. But now
00:26:06they don't care they've given up so you can like every ride I went on I take a picture of my smartphone of the picture one
00:26:12hundred one one of the ride I went on you can actually e-mail the photo to yourself for FREE. They have a
00:26:17camera. I think I can remember which one that is I think it was the the the Toy Story
00:26:23right it lets you do that. But no I do know and
00:26:28comedian Doug Benson has a bit about this and that is they do you know truly edit those
00:26:34photos like on Splash Mountain. If you flip the bird on one of those rides you will not see the photo
00:26:39of yourself coming out so there's no there's no. No
00:26:45visual profanity. Well at Disneyland or world some
00:26:50of those are pretty great oh no but I think here's the other thing I'm glad there's no
00:26:50of those are pretty great oh no but I think here's the other thing I'm glad there's no
00:26:55self it's because this gives people a reason to walk up to strangers and say hey would you mind
00:27:01taking a photo because you need to be friendly at Disneyland Disney World and you should have a selfie stick but
00:27:06you know you know the problem of every time you hand your camera or phone to a stranger take your photo.
00:27:12Nobody takes your photo right. Do they. Yeah I still can't take my
00:27:18wife still my favorite picture I take so I don't hand your photo but my my aggravate
00:27:24my aggravation is is that people back ups so far. I let me get everything in it
00:27:24my aggravation is is that people back ups so far. I let me get everything in it
00:27:29we can all know we want the subjects' mostly we want to a little bit of the background but I don't need the entire
00:27:34castle in this shot. So the subjects are little specks
00:27:40in the photo and it's like no no I don't want that you know and so when I see people go
00:27:45you know stepping back to take a photo go No Come Closer closer closer closer.
00:27:50That's always drive me nuts. D L If the person taking a photo.
00:27:56I don't yell but I tell them to come closer when I see the backing up you really are. What's
00:27:56I don't yell but I tell them to come closer when I see the backing up you really are. What's
00:28:01a structured story and tell me about this is that this is just a research
00:28:06project right now and I was looking at the video on how they do this and it seems like a lot of extra
00:28:11work but the whole premise is well if we structure news stories
00:28:22like line by line like database elements if you will then we can like rearrange
00:28:27and many people can contribute to a story and produce it and the
00:28:32Your And I was watching this and you just see the Almighty God like a ton of work to do some very simple project
00:28:38but the argument is that once you sort of get by that initial hurdle of this kind
00:28:38but the argument is that once you sort of get by that initial hurdle of this kind
00:28:43of like you know when you're setting up a C.R.M. database at the beginning it's very painful if
00:28:48you will. Once you get by that initial thing is this whole concept of of
00:29:10very interesting around journalism and I'm just intrigued to watch this sort of this
00:29:15concept develop self only well have a link to it and I believe you go to structured stories dot com You can actually
00:29:20sort of participate in it in it as well but it just kind of a research project as well right
00:29:25now. Unlike our podcast which are not structured at all no not at all. And
00:29:30by the way have you seen tumbler T.V. now so this is really fun.
00:29:36I don't even I haven't played with it at all in a long time but did you ever play with the Stumble Upon.
00:29:42I said Yeah I don't know how we stumbled on that one song. I haven't used it in years but
00:30:08giving that those fun moments you just sit there and one watch one after another and they're
00:30:13all kind of silly for that reason. But you could also search and if you're looking to kind of create a story
00:30:18with animated gifs I mean tumbler T.V. is a way to do it and you can find them there. So it's
00:30:24super fun. Double check it out. I
00:30:24super fun. Double check it out. I
00:30:29would think I was one or the people who are able to make gear for their picture on Twitter right there. A comic
00:30:36How do you do that any suggestions for me but I wonder though there are there are
00:30:36How do you do that any suggestions for me but I wonder though there are there are
00:30:43websites all Craig gives out of collections of photos or
00:30:48videos for that matter so you can do that but I don't really sort of you can have a I
00:30:54haven't seen it so you can have an icon on Twitter oh no no just in the like when you post a photo
00:30:59another there are actually I can gather and it will. Hey
00:31:14my mind too that the barriers to entry are going down like it seem like you know fifty
00:31:20years ago to have starting started a venture capital firm like you had to have like
00:31:25a ton of money behind you. We were connected. My coming from an ivory league school
00:31:31run on your last name last name me a cross child or something. But now like it's
00:31:37never going to work for actual capital firms a lot of people are saying here I'm connected I
00:31:42know I can I know people money I have a great Rolex or to start my own and you kind of seen that more and more
00:31:47there's an article about a Tech Crunch and and I kind of think I have a fine or started a V.C. firm just
00:31:52for music. Brian Ziska runs the music tech conference out of here
00:31:52for music. Brian Ziska runs the music tech conference out of here
00:31:57and he started his own essentially. Investment firm itself and kind
00:32:02of go I mean what I mean I think kind of the ultimate culmination that is like Angel Estie
00:32:13from launch taco but when everything started like one of the early
00:32:19blog networks. He has it like there's a lot of people with these syndicates
00:32:24So an angel Duco angel if you could start your own syndicate and people would just
00:32:30start you know you say OK minimum five thousand to get in your pockets if you have a fall I think the key is you
00:32:35have a following in a name and a platform. There's really nothing to stop you from becoming
00:32:40a some sort of like angel investor which is kind of the you know the kind of the beginning
00:32:45of our becoming a better catalyst right I mean the more interesting stuff is Angel busting them even more so than that
00:32:50kind of being like an old school venture capitalist. Yeah I mean I actually
00:32:56think who's also gotten into this is my old boss at the Tech T.V. and former C.E.O.
00:33:01of Revision three years or Jim lot about he's jumped into the game is itself just very recent to some
00:33:06point like when everyone starts making startups and becomes a venture capitalist where they can invest in because that's what's happening.
00:33:12Well they're going to vest and people invest in another venture
00:33:12Well they're going to vest and people invest in another venture
00:33:17capital firm but that's not a bad idea will do isn't the whole idea just put your money a man
00:33:22from Libby to our listeners. Hey thank you as always
00:33:22from Libby to our listeners. Hey thank you as always
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00:33:56we while we suggest you listen to our pockets we have recommendations of two other. Because
00:34:01what you're pod casting recommendation. Lately I've been dabbling
00:34:07a lot of it in cooking podcasts and to buy gas and put it on the market to summit right
00:34:13and there's this one called Cookie she's a post by a guy named Dave Arnold just got this great
00:34:18style. I'd recommend it into the video partisan old audio and the latest one
00:34:18style. I'd recommend it into the video partisan old audio and the latest one
00:34:23is actually with a company I know pretty you know fairly well called Mel one of the gases from
00:34:28chemical mold so if you're into kind of like if you're foodie in a kind of the
00:34:33intersection of technology and food. What's happening on the cutting edge. It's a good one. Are now
00:34:39I highly recommend and I just thought as one is recommendation and there's only been four episodes so far
00:34:44as we can kind of jump on and get on from the start. But Bear is doing
00:34:49a late show podcast about the creation of the show the whole process of getting there you know actually doing it because
00:34:55what has its producers though. He's the host and then he brings on different staff
00:35:16talked about one of the episodes. He actually talked about the old days of building another
00:35:21show it's really fascinating not too long a show I think you know it's between like seventeen and twenty
00:35:27minutes each episode it's really funny and I'll say the one thing that I thought was most
00:36:35you know the new new second season trying to talk to be watching it. I have not watched the first season
00:36:41or whatever form I have to I know it's on my list present to you. I finished by the way
00:36:46watching beep which was again fantastic but no true detective
00:36:51the Melissa two haven't seen how they are in another I don't want to make is another I don't coming Game of Thrones.
00:36:57The other new show THE BRINK looks great. There's so much I took did I tell you about a video game
00:37:02earlier this week that I still haven't played yes will actually go seeking it that. We're
00:37:08going to let our audience go as well. They think you so much. Audience Thank you
00:37:13Michel. And please tell all your friends about teardowns.
00:37:19I want to
00:00:01Welcome to the tear down show
00:00:12me David you have an L. a story for me I do have an L.A. story for you and
00:00:17it has to do with people being helpful flights not helpful at first all
00:00:22the phrase can I help you can be told. Set in different
00:00:27ways you can be. Can I help you. Which is a true honest way of doing that
00:00:32or if you're in a place where maybe you shouldn't be or perceived you shouldn't be
00:00:37. You might get the can I help you which is anything
00:00:46It can mean anything. Yeah. Right right. There's actually Rob
00:00:51Schneider used to have a bit before it became very successful or it's sort of the beginning with success he
00:00:56was on the Letterman show and he did this whole routine about the different ways you can say do it in
00:00:56was on the Letterman show and he did this whole routine about the different ways you can say do it in
00:01:01all the different meanings behind Dude it's a very funny bit
00:01:06but I I had the dichotomy of help on our shoot so we did a
00:01:11shoot at a hotel in Los Angeles of which we
00:01:16had my our client had paid for a room and so there's all this stuff and we were
00:01:21in a lobby or put in an inmate in an area that literally no human was walking
00:01:25through I mean nobody zero. And they actually moved a giant like
00:01:30overstuffed chair out of our way so we could you know operator if she were doing interviews and
00:01:30overstuffed chair out of our way so we could you know operator if she were doing interviews and
00:01:36all my shooter had was a tripod.
00:01:41In an area of which there was also an area eight feet wide for people to
00:01:51from the hotel come up to us and they want us to put the
00:01:56tripod down because they think it's a fire hazard
00:02:00. I go to who like because when we have insurance issues
00:02:00. I go to who like because when we have insurance issues
00:02:04and all the stuff and like there is no one walking here no one not a
00:02:09human. Now the complete flip side of that and we're like What is wrong
00:02:09human. Now the complete flip side of that and we're like What is wrong
00:02:14with people that they have to find a problem and that is finding a problem that is
00:02:19not a problem. So we were just kind of befuddled like someone's getting upset about those
00:02:24two issues to comments about it. Second we were shooting
00:02:29construction sites in Los Angeles and usually when we shoot construction sites we kind of find the
00:02:34opening construction site and shoot insider. We're kind across the street and we would maybe be in a
00:02:39parking lot and shoot down but we never actually go on the construction site.
00:02:39parking lot and shoot down but we never actually go on the construction site.
00:02:43Well my shooter was there shooting a construction site. The security guy
00:02:48was so forthcoming he says they let me get your hardhat and a vest had him sign a release
00:02:53form and then took him around the entire construction site so we could shoot. We have no
00:02:53form and then took him around the entire construction site so we could shoot. We have no
00:02:58set up for this or anything we just kind of appeared he was unbelievably helpful
00:03:03so I just. When you see someone who needs help. Go
00:03:03so I just. When you see someone who needs help. Go
00:03:08out and really help them. But don't be a hinderance as my story is that I have here
00:03:13which I was just so amazed at like how helpful doc I was and how a pain in the butt
00:03:19that hotel was unnecessarily so.
00:03:19that hotel was unnecessarily so.
00:03:23Yet seems like the guy should be flipped like the guy he was like at a construction site
00:03:28who's looking after your health or some place he could probably die. He's the one the more likely to be a
00:03:33pain because he doesn't you know and I don't know let me tell you and then tell should like
00:03:33pain because he doesn't you know and I don't know let me tell you and then tell should like
00:03:38was it a nice hotel holiday should be do you know you possible to like make your life better
00:03:43yet.
00:03:43yet.
00:03:43Well not only that it's not like we just randomly showed up at the club or was
00:03:48had paid an enormous amount of money to be
00:03:54home and we did pay this construction site anything you know like we're just happy to be there so
00:03:59don't normally construction sites. Either they just completely ignore you or they tell you to go away
00:04:05but to go away has been rare we have only had that happen a couple of times not that I'm not in
00:04:10college you know we have our first story is the uber story in France but let's go Straight to Mark
00:04:15man first and then yes OK we can talk Mark Martin So you did most of the interview I did it
00:04:20I loved it I thought it was a fantastic interview.
00:04:24I think it shows like The Power of the long form listening experience of
00:04:33just one on one with the person no I am not what I haven't heard it without the glare. Like cable like
00:04:38you know sure he's out to get you watching a half hour interview with him and Gore wryly
00:04:43like but that's just so tense.
00:05:10that and just how proud he is of his two daughters and
00:05:15understandably and obviously so but it was just a great interview and I thought Mark Mehran
00:05:19handled so very very well and the whole thing now did you also listen to the follow up
00:05:24podcast where they talked about the whole experience I have to do that that's exciting.
00:05:29I didn't even know there was one but to your point about just you know pulling out
00:05:33pieces about that from this interview in like kind of giving insights into his life I mean just.
00:05:33pieces about that from this interview in like kind of giving insights into his life I mean just.
00:05:38He's is exchanges with his daughters who are growing up and like you know how it's been a little
00:05:43stressful for them because they get tired of the seeking you know Secret Service detail when they go over to
00:05:48friends for sleep overs and he's like he's like he tells his daughters and if you think I'm
00:05:52driving you're going to pick you up over your friends out here and after like a night out
00:05:57you're crazy I mean does that kind of that little insight into his life to share
00:06:02his specifics of his life and develop it.
00:06:06I do I can't imagine being a teenager growing up in an environment trying to grow up as a normal
00:06:11teenager it's not easy you know it's a little bizarre to
00:06:16say the least but no I mean but I mean can you remember I don't
00:06:16say the least but no I mean but I mean can you remember I don't
00:06:21remember a time where a president a sitting president had a conversation with
00:06:25another person or just seems like to do this.
00:06:28Yes it in that what he and it came off just like the two thirds are talking like they could've been having a
00:06:33beer like you don't get that like everything and I just remember how and this isn't a comment on Bush but
00:06:39he seems so. Programmed especially through the end of this doesn't mean every every
00:06:43and every word with so many tears so measured and you know now he was speaking to his politics I feel
00:06:48like he probably thought there's a lot of pressure on him to make sure every word was said exactly the right
00:06:53way for fear of a you know kind of an ocular inoculating himself against my
00:06:58criticism and that's just the way most presidents are so to get this and
00:07:03varnished interview with Mark Mehran with Marc Mero trademark style it was just it
00:07:08was a great lesson.
00:07:09I so highly right whether you listen to Marc Mero not just listen to this one
00:07:09I so highly right whether you listen to Marc Mero not just listen to this one
00:07:14interview with the president. I believe you can just go to there's also a website that the
00:07:18sponsor Squarespace would set up. Mark meets Obama
00:07:38to his producer about this and I do realize that they are to the
00:07:43White House that actually contacted Marin through the website a
00:07:49year ago this so this started a year ago this whole process and so they just talk about the
00:07:54whole process the whole process. Secret Service showing up and tending the house and on all
00:08:09see the news that came out after the interview.
00:08:13So. I think a lot about they just focus on not actually focused on
00:08:18the factories and then word and every criticism decontextualized
00:08:51well they only know that I know either.
00:08:54Yeah that's a take that's a horrible event. I know and just when I heard that I was like oh my God
00:08:58that's not the story.
00:08:58that's not the story.
00:09:01And they Yeah that's the story that gets it's the story that you know a certain segment the
00:09:06media just want you to take away because that's the that's why he's also laced.
00:09:39that I think it was he references L.B.J. Lyndon B. Johnson
00:09:44saying the word on television and that would desensitize work from thinking well maybe not but would do
00:09:49the opposite. But but the irony that he referenced a president to desensitize the word and now
00:09:54today we have a president say the word which now it it desensitizing it just so
00:09:59yeah and I love everyone who has advice for him and criticism about how should I say
00:09:59yeah and I love everyone who has advice for him and criticism about how should I say
00:10:04this word or white like yeah
00:10:09everyone is so critical for the way people which I know it's that
00:10:38comedians I mean just watching just stores getting reaction to them is just you know it's
00:10:43kind of putting a fine point on how much I'm going to miss John store just to see his reaction to
00:10:48this thing is we're recording this on a Saturday will have this dropping like next middle next
00:10:53week who knows what what Trump will do between out of bed like
00:11:02so pissed off the entire country of Mexico.
00:11:10Like I did so you know you don't do that as the president I read somewhere as a head as a drab I had one
00:11:15for me.
00:11:15for me.
00:11:16Someone said he's second in the polls or something what is that going to the polls and yet be possible that
00:11:21well because he is the only well known name Bush then and then nobody knows any of the other
00:11:26names but it just shows you the craziness of the world today. Yeah yeah and now
00:11:31he won't let a staff member of Univision on one of his property. These
00:11:38days it's just like oh my God he's so he's so crazy
00:11:38days it's just like oh my God he's so he's so crazy
00:11:44on the president if I didn't I wasn't if I was a word for the country I'd want to be president of the entertainment value
00:11:49.
00:11:50Well they are you testing. So years ago when I was doing standup I had jokes similar to
00:11:55about Ross Perot and I would you know like a Mr to Donald Trump I said you know we should
00:12:00just all vote for Trump. You know it'll be funny. It will be funny
00:12:13. Those two people could not be more on track in thoughtfulness three
00:12:18contrast was just amazing and it's a very
00:12:23yeah and you know Trump is part of I think what's driving Travers I think
00:12:23yeah and you know Trump is part of I think what's driving Travers I think
00:12:28Obama personally distant at the president at the president's press dinner like four or five
00:12:33years ago he actually insult them like Trump was an audience and I think I think that's got to be
00:12:48worktop you're spectacular.
00:12:51He got better and I mean again we're going to pause and encourage anyone who has a listen to
00:12:55his eulogy for though you have the last night for an hour listening
00:13:00to and it's well worth it
00:13:01. So it's just it's just a huge huge huge for the president. All right
00:13:07we have wasted thirty minutes just talking about that. Let's get into.
00:13:12They get into some of our tax where you want to we can burn through these the French government is trying to shut
00:13:16down. We were you know there were protests the supposed a year ago that the French
00:13:21government found Hoover illegal the service and
00:13:21government found Hoover illegal the service and
00:13:26Goober is trying to work a way around it. It's the name of the service out there is pop
00:13:31and there were you know I actually saw a big protest of which Courtney Love was involved
00:13:35. Very high violence between the taxis
00:13:45I think I'm going to mention on an earlier pockets that I met one of the founders of goober like four years
00:13:50ago at a bar and my initial reaction was Well good luck to him through the you know
00:13:55the sort of the unionization of the taxis but they did successfully but I
00:14:53the janitors Union was on strike and I mean
00:14:58you know no commentary on that all just like it's going to show me that an early age like whether they have a
00:15:03strong hold on to other parts of society over there.
00:15:06Yeah you know well let's move on
00:15:12I want to I like I like the idea of a tractor truck what is the treasure truck someone
00:15:17described it as a pirate truck but with treasure.
00:15:22It's like a pirate ship or treasure and it's on a truck and you know it's called the treasure from Amazon
00:15:27and it's on its way. I'm super excited. Kind like it's almost like ice cream truck
00:15:32for adults to me and one of the cool things well in Seattle is like you get to see the
00:15:37crazy Amazon ideas first and it's literally just a truck that drives around
00:15:42Seattle it's like insane deals in the first one is a and
00:15:47I'm pretty excited about it because my wife's been wanting us to paddle paddle board for a
00:15:51while and their first year as a stand up available paddle board set for ninety nine
00:15:56dollars retail price for close to five hundred dollars.
00:15:56dollars retail price for close to five hundred dollars.
00:16:01But it's so old school in a way. So the idea is that it's kind of like a
00:16:06movable womb if you will.
00:16:08Yeah I mean you know like the bookmobile how exciting the book when you
00:16:13remember when I came I must say that I like the ice cream truck a lot
00:16:17. Yeah and I have like my kids like it been years since I met when I ski trip on my neighbor a
00:16:22bike and I like that like about a week ago I was outside having the car of my son and I heard the ice
00:16:27cream truck like this Kristie kind of like bam. Like a kidnapper van with
00:16:34Bush stickers on site I don't care. I told my son to go get his
00:16:34Bush stickers on site I don't care. I told my son to go get his
00:16:38sister we're going to buy some ice cream and that's going to really to see a little a little kid to pop his head out of the
00:16:43door like the dad was driving and the kid is like now how do you sure that was the
00:16:43door like the dad was driving and the kid is like now how do you sure that was the
00:16:48dad and the kid or not.
00:16:50So you know I guess I should say if you pretty happy to be handing us ice cream because well
00:17:19go.
00:17:20So it's just it's just a really fun promotional idea I think is a great idea
00:17:25. Yeah. Blake and I'm going to break crowds in exactly the
00:17:25. Yeah. Blake and I'm going to break crowds in exactly the
00:17:30locks in the video to you know it's a really fun silly.
00:17:35A promotional idea I think is a good idea let's go. Treasured up the church which are very fun idea
00:17:40. Hate Now this this next thing the Google undo
00:17:40. Hate Now this this next thing the Google undo
00:17:45send feature which is something that I thought they had a while ago.
00:17:48This I've been easily for eight years it's my favorite thing
00:17:48This I've been easily for eight years it's my favorite thing
00:17:50. Yes So why is this kind of a big new thing I'm trying to understand how it went from
00:17:54so you know when you kind of knows the ins and outs of Google Mail G.-Mail they
00:17:59have labs which people could create these experimental work ins are features
00:18:05and it's a you have a when he graduates from being a Google Labs thing to make an official
00:18:10feature that's what's happened and so they I think that's why it was in the news. But I've been using it
00:18:10feature that's what's happened and so they I think that's why it was in the news. But I've been using it
00:18:15for like at least a couple years now I don't can't tell you how many times to save my bacon
00:18:20just sending in something and then realizing you have someone on there that you don't
00:18:20just sending in something and then realizing you have someone on there that you don't
00:18:25or you said the wrong thing or you forgot attachment had ended so you have a
00:18:30delayed for thirty seconds I have a maxed out in a minute because I can just do it or they may offer Sanogo
00:18:36like I did with a man but there's also the time where like you're you're on a call like you
00:18:40have a schedule call likes someone's waiting for your Power Point presentation or whatever and I hit
00:18:45send I said it'll be there in a minute.
00:18:47Like because I don't I like avoided this because it's fun.
00:19:03.
00:19:04Ludicrous was a beta forever and people were using it as a regular product but yet it was a beta product for
00:19:08so so long as for strike I remember getting like like I haven't asked for an invite
00:19:13for because I think it's two thousand and four. I got my G. Mail invite but at the time you had to know
00:19:18someone and they didn't have to send you an invite or that you're
00:19:24all right let's move on Fred Wilson. So people
00:19:39he's kind of like up there with Andresen mentors like P.C.'s that people kind of follow every
00:19:44word hang on every word and he wrote a piece I thought was pretty good
00:19:50about how he's getting sick of seeing business plans and pitches from startups
00:20:16he's just getting tired of it he says you don't have to forsake profitability where the very least
00:20:21even if you're going for growth early on and know you are in the loop losing money you should think about your path to responsibility
00:20:26and think that's a great point and English more start to think about that.
00:20:29Well it's interesting so there's an event here in San Francisco called S of new tech
00:20:34and the very first it's an event where startups get up
00:20:39and present their company did a five minutes demo it in five minutes a question from the audience and the
00:20:43first question is always asked of the audience and now they don't even bother they just sort of ask the question right at the
00:20:43first question is always asked of the audience and now they don't even bother they just sort of ask the question right at the
00:20:48beginning or they go to the audience is how are we going to make money it is always a
00:20:53question how do you make money how you can. And so
00:20:53question how do you make money how you can. And so
00:20:58this has become such a sort of standard thing you know if you remember the dot com boom. No
00:21:02one thought about making money and I mean no one thought about making money. They just thought
00:21:07about I don't leak and I go yeah I thought it was ludicrous and it was the
00:21:12revenue model was just sell sell the business not make money ourselves or
00:21:17complain about that like most of these species are mostly starts to think about OK how do I get from
00:21:33of all how many years have you had Netflix.
00:21:36WAY longer than you my friend since the ninety's. I don't want to use a
00:21:41disc only thing no matter what it is it is going to call it.
00:21:49and I moved to Seattle back to Seattle.
00:21:52I think I had about thirteen fourteen years so I had it around two thousand two thousand and one maybe.
00:21:58Yeah that's what I mean most people didn't get it I think until it became
00:21:58Yeah that's what I mean most people didn't get it I think until it became
00:22:03like a streaming thing alive.
00:22:05I know I had a D.V.D.'s for many many years many many years. I think with maybe fourteen years I've had I've
00:22:10had it for a long time but I'm not as heavy a user anymore I barely barely used but you know
00:22:14being that the price is so low you know I never think to get rid of it but
00:22:35on Facebook and there's sort of conflicting views some deleted some don't. But according to their math
00:22:40and I'm just sort of isolated there's a lot of numbers here but they claim that the
00:22:44average Netflix user is watching two hours
00:22:44average Netflix user is watching two hours
00:22:49per day per subscriber per day so that means also if you have a household the total household
00:22:54could be watching you know two hours per day of the thing that seems like a lot because
00:22:59I definitely do not watch two hours per day of Netflix. What do you think.
00:22:59I definitely do not watch two hours per day of Netflix. What do you think.
00:23:04I mean that's you know no wealth of your day. I haven't. On average like
00:23:09really read through this and absorb it. I don't leave because I watch maybe ten hours a
00:23:14month on Netflix
00:23:15. Most that means to take up my slack other people are watching three
00:23:20to four hours a day to this I don't watch more T.V. like most of what I watch is netflix and
00:23:25i can watch a series like an episode or a night and day so like for
00:23:29me. But that's kind of a bounce for like me having the T.V. on for three
00:23:34hours watching like a marriage game so I think what's actually if anything's going to make you
00:23:39see is not true is like life sports because that's what I think consumes a lot of like live viewing
00:23:44time or like you know viewing time on Fox for example.
00:23:47Well I just don't watch two hours of T.V. a day and I'd like to do is here's my
00:23:52frustration I on Sunday and it is just my own
00:23:57personal overwhelm and with Sunday I bought myself a really cool new
00:24:02it's actually old it's been around for all the horizon to driving to and I still haven't played the
00:24:02it's actually old it's been around for all the horizon to driving to and I still haven't played the
00:24:07darn thing so it's not that I don't I don't have time for T.V. or to play the game that
00:24:12I've paid for either but I think this weekend I will play. If you're busy I know you're busy
00:24:17making money my friend. I know I know I know someone asked me.
00:24:25All right let's get into the next story we haven't heard about but I didn't realize that he was a victim.
00:24:29Do you have a selfie stick.
00:24:31Do not own a selfie sick I think first of all I actually I've only once seen one
00:24:36up close and personal. Someone else was showing me their selfie stick which sounds a little crude
00:24:41.
00:24:41.
00:24:44Yeah I mean my and my wife got one as a gift because she and her friend news she's going
00:24:49to New York and actually if you go Mike on a vacation or two away to Hawaii or something like
00:24:54that actually makes sense to bring one even though the people who
00:25:05but you know Disney the news came out this week that they banned.
00:25:10Yeah they look at them look for them at security I mean that's where I saw Tom was I was a designer and a couple months
00:25:15ago and like there are so many of them and like it's always someone the ruins of for another person. Like I mean it's
00:25:20like that's the rule everything right like is that one person ruins and so I think well it
00:25:25wasn't so in here's the clarification they didn't have a problem
00:25:28. People having selfies sticks on the grounds of Disney. The problem was the people
00:25:42called the big mountain you know railroad roller coaster and maids that you know they were recently
00:25:47at the peak they were taking a selfie and it's like.
00:25:49Now forget it we're going to let you know when the roller coaster is like those where they take a picture of
00:25:54you and make you used to actually have people there and guard against you taking pictures of the
00:26:04they want you to pay like twenty dollars for the picture but now they don't care they've given up so you can like every ride I went
00:26:09on I take a picture of my smartphone of the picture.
00:26:12We'll have one one of the rides I went on you can actually e-mailed the photo to yourself for FREE. They
00:26:21the the the Toy Story right it lets you do that
00:26:27but no I do know him and comedian Doug Benson has a bit about this and that is they
00:26:32do you know truly edit those photos like on Splash Mountain. If you flip the
00:26:41so there is no there's no no visual profanity.
00:26:46Well at Disneyland or world. Some of those are pretty great.
00:26:53No but I think here's the other thing I'm glad that yourself it's because this gives people a reason to walk up
00:26:58to strangers and say hey would you like mind taking a photo because you need to be
00:27:03friendly at Disneyland Disney World and you should have a selfie so you know you know the problem of
00:27:08every time you hand your camera or phone to a stranger take your photo. The
00:27:12Nobody takes your photo right.
00:27:14Do they. Yeah I still can't take my wife still mocks every picture it
00:27:14Do they. Yeah I still can't take my wife still mocks every picture it
00:27:19takes I like don't hand your photos by my aggravate
00:27:24my aggravation is is that people back up so far.
00:27:24my aggravation is is that people back up so far.
00:27:27I let me get everything in it we couldn't or no we want the subjects mostly we want a little bit of the
00:27:32background but I don't need the entire castle in the
00:27:32background but I don't need the entire castle in the
00:27:37shot like the subjects are little specks in the photo and it's a you know I'm like No
00:27:42no I don't want that you know and so when I see people go you know stepping back to take a photo go
00:27:46No Come Closer closer closer closer that always drives me
00:27:51nuts.
00:27:52D L If the person taking a photo.
00:27:56I don't yell but I tell them to come closer when I see them backing up really far. Hey
00:27:56I don't yell but I tell them to come closer when I see them backing up really far. Hey
00:28:01what's a structured story and tell me what this is this is just a
00:28:05research project right now and I was looking at the video and how they do this and it seems like a
00:28:10lot of extra work but the whole premise is well if we
00:28:19actions and all that stuff into literally like line by line like database
00:28:24elements if you will then we can like rearrange and many people can contribute to a
00:28:29story and produce it and the Your And I was watching this and it
00:28:34just seemed Almighty God like a ton of work to do some very simple project but the
00:28:39argument is that once you sort of get by that initial hurdle of this kind of like you know
00:28:39argument is that once you sort of get by that initial hurdle of this kind of like you know
00:28:44when you're setting up a C.R.M. database in the beginning it's very painful if you will
00:28:50want to get by that initial thing is this whole concept of developing stories can go
00:28:59plagiarism comes in here as well. But it's just
00:29:04I'm always fascinated by faster ways to create content with a video but this
00:29:09was very interesting around journalism and I'm just intrigued to watch this
00:29:09was very interesting around journalism and I'm just intrigued to watch this
00:29:14sort of this concept develop self only. Well have a link to it and I believe you go to structured
00:29:19stories dot com You can actually sort of participate in it in it as well but it's just kind
00:29:19stories dot com You can actually sort of participate in it in it as well but it's just kind
00:29:24of a research project right now.
00:29:27Unlike our podcasts which are not structured at all no not at all.
00:29:30And by the way have you seen Tumblr T.V. now so this is really fun
00:29:35. I don't even I haven't played with it at all in a long time but did you ever play with the
00:29:40Stumble Upon.
00:29:46I haven't used it in years but I used to just like you know the whole sort of be
00:29:51the discovery process a stumble upon where you just sort of kind of keep you know mind numbingly
00:29:56hitting the button to see kind of the next thing the next thing the next site. Well public T.V.
00:30:11watch one after another and they're all kind of silly for that reason but you can
00:30:16also search and if you're looking to kind of create a story with animated gifs I mean tumbler
00:30:21T.V. is a way to do it and you can find the bear so it's super fun
00:30:25. Definitely check it out.
00:30:25. Definitely check it out.
00:30:29I always think I was wonder if the people are able to make a gift for their picture on Twitter right there
00:30:34icon like how do you do that.
00:30:37Any suggestions for me but I wonder though there are there are
00:30:43websites or crate gives out of collections of photos
00:30:47or videos for that matter so you can do that but I don't know if you can
00:30:52have a I haven't seen it so you can have a icon on Twitter oh no just you
00:30:57need like when you post a photo it's another their actual icon
00:31:02there that's kind of cool.
00:31:20to have starting started Patrick out of firm like you had to have like
00:31:25you know a ton of money behind it were connected. My coming from an ivory idly
00:31:30school Ronnie your last name last name e Bay Rothschild or something
00:31:35but now like it's like going to work for venture capital firms a lot of people are saying here
00:31:40I'm connected I know I can I know people money have a great Rolodex or to start
00:31:45my own and you kind of seen them or more there's an article about a Tech Crunch and I think
00:31:50I have a plan or started a V.C. firm just for music.
00:31:55Brian's this who runs the music tech conference out here and he started his own
00:32:01investment firm itself and it's kind of cool.
00:32:17the the early blog networks. He has it like
00:32:22there's a lot of people with these syndicates So an angel doco into lest you destroy your own
00:32:28syndicate and people will just start you know you say OK minimum five thousand get in
00:32:28syndicate and people will just start you know you say OK minimum five thousand get in
00:32:32your pockets if you have a fall I think the key is if you have a following in a name and a platform
00:32:38there's really nothing to stop you from becoming a some sort of like angel investor which is kind of the
00:32:43you know the kind of the beginning of our becoming a better catalyst right I mean the more interesting
00:32:48stuff is Angel messing them even more so than that kind of being like an old school venture capitalist
00:32:59take the name former C.E.O. of Religion three years virgin lot about you know jumped into the game.
00:33:04So just very recently at some point like when everyone starts making startups and Iran becomes a venture
00:33:09capitalist where they can invest in because that's what's happening
00:33:09capitalist where they can invest in because that's what's happening
00:33:11. Well they're going to vest in people you know maybe you could
00:33:16invest in another venture capital firm. That's not a bad idea. Well do you think the whole
00:33:21idea is just put your money remember you know to our listeners
00:33:25. Hey thank you as always you guys are awesome. We appreciate it. We appreciate
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00:33:55friends and we while we suggest you were listen to our pockets we have recommendations of
00:33:55friends and we while we suggest you were listen to our pockets we have recommendations of
00:34:00two other podcasts. What's your podcast recommendation.
00:34:04Lately I've been dabbling a little bit in cooking podcasts
00:34:09and by cast and put on the US market summit right. And there's this one
00:34:09and by cast and put on the US market summit right. And there's this one
00:34:15called Cookie she's with host by a guy named Dave Arnold just got this great style.
00:34:20I'd recommend it into the video parts as you note in the latest one is actually with a company I know pretty you
00:34:25know fairly well. Called Mel one of the gases from a chemical mold so
00:34:30and if you're into kind of like if you're a foodie in kind of the intersection of technology and
00:34:35to the kind of what's happening on the cutting edge it's a good one.
00:34:39Now I highly recommend and I just saw this one as a recommendation and there's only been four
00:34:43episodes so far so you can kind of jump on and get on from the start but
00:34:43episodes so far so you can kind of jump on and get on from the start but
00:34:48still compare is doing a late show podcast about the creation of the show the whole process of
00:34:53getting there he's actually doing it because a lot has its producers nobility. He's the host
00:34:58and then he brings on different staff members to talk about the different work that they're all doing
00:35:18. He actually talked about the old days of building another show. It's
00:35:23really fascinating not too long ago a show I think you know between like seventeen and twenty minutes
00:35:28each episode it's really fun and I'll tell you the one thing that I thought was most fascinating because we're
00:36:53don't want to like there's another side note coming. Game of Thrones the other new show THE
00:36:58BRINK looks great. There's so much I took did I tell you about a video game early this week that I
00:37:03still haven't played. Yes we'll let you go seeking it that there is that we're going
00:37:08to let our audience go as well. Hey thank you so much. Audience Thank you
00:37:13Michel. And please tell all your friends about teardown show
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