
| 00:00:01 | This week the virtual females breakfast eaters and chickens. I'm |
| 00:00:06 | right glad I'm Travers Mackel and I'm a bright spaghetti popcorn croquet |
| 00:00:11 | Trenton's like |
| 00:00:12 | . |
| 00:00:22 | Hello brain travel as I'm looking at your face because I'm in the same |
| 00:00:27 | room. Welcome to my bedroom. Welcome to my food war. Thank you. |
| 00:00:27 | room. Welcome to my bedroom. Welcome to my food war. Thank you. |
| 00:00:32 | It's kind of like old times we did live in the same room for a year in |
| 00:00:36 | college. |
| 00:00:50 | . Yes and sometimes the names of the dead people in certain parts of L.A.. |
| 00:00:55 | Yeah it's weird. Yeah. Let me preface I want to do a little bit of a |
| 00:01:00 | teaser and I'll explain why are why I find this week easy very musical why |
| 00:01:31 | God damn it I missed McDonald's breakfast again is not the worst when |
| 00:01:36 | I don't start my day with a sausage because then I just. |
| 00:01:41 | What's the point I was even the point. |
| 00:01:41 | What's the point I was even the point. |
| 00:01:43 | I have been trying this is not a lie I have been wanting to try Taco Bell's |
| 00:01:47 | breakfast menu in a similar story our breakfast a factor. Well that's a thing I would like to just to |
| 00:01:52 | find out if I am but I haven't gotten the chance because I wake up I wake up a little bit later than |
| 00:01:57 | most people and like the nearest Taco Bells a twenty five minute walk from my place if you had twenty five minutes to |
| 00:02:02 | actually walk and think about that choice |
| 00:02:02 | actually walk and think about that choice |
| 00:02:04 | . You're not going to do it but you know I haven't gotten a try Taco Bells |
| 00:02:09 | of course I have tried McDonald's breakfast menu though as many of our listeners I assume all of our |
| 00:02:16 | McDonald's stopped serving breakfast at ten thirty every day. This is been |
| 00:02:22 | for as long as I can remember. A hugely contested and deeply |
| 00:02:26 | argued thing which I get from my point of view like what why |
| 00:02:50 | gained about fifteen pounds because they gave you pretty much whatever you wanted for free. That |
| 00:02:55 | said once you get to a point where people are going to stop ordering a certain |
| 00:03:00 | item you've got a bunch of that item just waiting in places where it's being kept |
| 00:03:05 | warm and you know it's just a business thing it's like it's like they know people are going to stop |
| 00:03:10 | ordering breakfast as much after that time so they go ahead and switch over to their flagship thing which is |
| 00:03:15 | for McDonald's It's the burgers. Well here is the thing. |
| 00:03:20 | McDonald's and men do and so hot as of late I think they may have been getting a lot |
| 00:03:25 | of a lot of negative press. A lot of people saying that you know they they |
| 00:03:30 | have. If I remember correctly there are customers like opinion polls have been |
| 00:03:34 | consistently down right year over year they've become kind of you know like how |
| 00:03:39 | there's always a Justin Bieber or Britney Spears to like hate on indiscriminately. |
| 00:03:44 | They've become like the food version of that like people don't even like if McDonald's came out with |
| 00:03:54 | five years before anybody would stop saying you know McDonald's shit food like well what is |
| 00:03:58 | funny is I like it so I live down the street from me is a McDonald's and a jack in the box |
| 00:04:03 | right across the street from one another and if you want to talk about like people throwing shit at the |
| 00:04:14 | No how about this it's like chicken and it's wrapped in chocolate bacon is that cool what about fried |
| 00:04:19 | spaghetti popcorn croquettes maybe no yes no no everyone but the McDonald's are like we're putting the |
| 00:04:24 | steak on a burger and McDonalds you're going crazy calm it down. |
| 00:04:28 | Yeah go get above your raising. And I think that that's it I think that like McDonald's |
| 00:04:33 | is a thing right that everybody when they think fast food and they think want to grab a burger |
| 00:04:38 | . No one's going to McDonald's because they're wanting not soloing steak you know |
| 00:04:53 | and thirteen comparable sales at restaurants that have been open at least thirteen months declined |
| 00:04:58 | two point two percent in the U.S. That's like a huge decrease. Sure |
| 00:05:03 | that's very significant. So McDonald's is trying out a couple things and one of the things that they are |
| 00:05:08 | trying to increase their business and how to grow their |
| 00:05:08 | trying to increase their business and how to grow their |
| 00:05:12 | market a little bit is an all day breakfast now from what I can find. |
| 00:05:17 | It's not like it's not like Jack in the boxes it leaves you know breakfast all day. |
| 00:05:17 | It's not like it's not like Jack in the boxes it leaves you know breakfast all day. |
| 00:05:22 | They would basically transfer like the most popular items over so like you could still get a |
| 00:05:27 | sausage biscuit or immigrate all day. Maybe you can't get the flapjack you know the |
| 00:05:32 | hot cakes. Yeah the hot cakes bladder all day but you could get yourself a sausage risk you could get yourself an |
| 00:05:37 | Egg McMuffin. I eat. Here's the thing I think |
| 00:05:37 | Egg McMuffin. I eat. Here's the thing I think |
| 00:05:42 | that if they did that in the first month they would probably see a pretty huge spike |
| 00:05:46 | as people went Oh but it's one thirty in the afternoon I get a thousand get |
| 00:05:51 | Yeah I don't know that over time it would be a huge bond but I |
| 00:05:56 | think it couldn't hurt you know what you did you know to do once sales start to decline from |
| 00:06:02 | That's when you start with dinner all day. Oh yeah yeah I mean |
| 00:06:07 | yeah five in the morning you want to wake up super early and buy a quarter pounder which is a stupid |
| 00:06:12 | idea |
| 00:06:12 | idea |
| 00:06:12 | . You know I honestly I thought about that a lot because well here's the thing. McDonald's |
| 00:06:17 | Most of them stay open twenty four hours now and you have people that work weird hours I |
| 00:06:17 | Most of them stay open twenty four hours now and you have people that work weird hours I |
| 00:06:22 | remember if I did a couple shifts of that spy where we did overnight where I was like working and |
| 00:06:27 | reset up you know different displays and everything. We'd get out at seven o'clock in the morning after |
| 00:06:27 | reset up you know different displays and everything. We'd get out at seven o'clock in the morning after |
| 00:06:32 | working seven P.M. to seven A.M. I don't want a sausage biscuit I wanted a hamburger I want to eat dinner |
| 00:06:37 | right |
| 00:06:37 | right |
| 00:06:37 | . And places like i Hop for your big boy your your |
| 00:06:42 | big boys. No I said Big Boy that what your bird your large |
| 00:06:47 | boy media people in Britain of the Brit boy lately but not like they have a |
| 00:06:52 | full menu all the time and that's part of their charm maybe McDonald's is heading toward |
| 00:06:57 | being a little bit more of a diner atmosphere |
| 00:06:59 | . Well I also think and before we harp on it too much I do think |
| 00:07:04 | and I think this is the pitfall is I think the reason for so long |
| 00:07:09 | there's been such a demand of people saying why can't I get it after ten thirty |
| 00:07:14 | is because they can't. |
| 00:07:14 | is because they can't. |
| 00:07:16 | And if it was available all day they're not going to like crave it kind of like if your |
| 00:07:20 | sibling doesn't use their toy all the time in like you borrow it now they're pissed and now |
| 00:07:25 | they want to play with it exact you know here's one thing that I think about with this story and that is |
| 00:07:30 | that we are a culture now where I fly a lot and you see a lot of people in public now wearing |
| 00:07:35 | pajamas. You see words like I feel like you know back in the sixty's |
| 00:08:04 | home watching Saturday morning cartoons |
| 00:08:07 | . I mean I'm not going to say you're wrong because you make a very convincing argument. But I would say |
| 00:08:12 | that there's also just as much credence to this. |
| 00:08:16 | It's just places like McDonalds and Jack in the box and Taco Bell knowing their audience |
| 00:08:21 | and them spending the most money on advertising you know I mean yeah there's not a lot of |
| 00:08:26 | really expensive steak houses spending the amount of money on advertising the |
| 00:08:26 | really expensive steak houses spending the amount of money on advertising the |
| 00:08:30 | McDonnell that's true it's kind of like how how supposedly in a |
| 00:08:35 | in a fairly different but I think similar story how liquor sales like liquor companies |
| 00:08:40 | rely on apparently functional alcoholics because their statistics |
| 00:08:49 | daily weekly. |
| 00:08:50 | So McDonald's is like can you imagine buying a bottle of liquor today |
| 00:08:55 | . No I cannot I the closest thing I can compare it to is during |
| 00:09:00 | my most heavy caffeine drinking periods I've gone through you |
| 00:09:05 | know amounts of coffee that actually are dangerous and stupid per day or like multiple |
| 00:09:10 | energy drinks you know. But I can imagine that thing is that's just going to make me |
| 00:09:10 | energy drinks you know. But I can imagine that thing is that's just going to make me |
| 00:09:14 | jittery and potentially productive I can imagine I mean that's a whole |
| 00:09:19 | you know alcoholism is a disease that's my guess but but but I think that what |
| 00:09:23 | McDonald's is probably doing is they know that their most loyal |
| 00:09:35 | . You're welcome McDonald's Yeah I mean listen I'm not going to lie |
| 00:09:40 | . There will come a day after they've made this switch where I |
| 00:09:45 | will wake up at noon on a day that I well I never wake up and they're more like I have been |
| 00:09:50 | up for five hours and then at noon I'll be like you know what I want right now. Sausage |
| 00:10:02 | So I was clicking through stories to talk about today and one of the ones I found |
| 00:10:06 | . So you and I had a little bit of a pre-show |
| 00:10:11 | debate about this discussion about it the headline is this. And from bossy a teen |
| 00:10:16 | girl who was nearly killed in a rip tide was saved by herself the stick |
| 00:10:21 | sounds very magical. I mean like really when you just see the fantastical Yeah what I |
| 00:10:21 | sounds very magical. I mean like really when you just see the fantastical Yeah what I |
| 00:10:26 | pictured was like she was being dragged out and she used it as like a |
| 00:10:30 | paddle or she used it like I was I was like a rider to help steer on it so |
| 00:10:35 | fast she became a helicopter or something. And so then I clicked through |
| 00:10:39 | the page the story and like |
| 00:10:39 | the page the story and like |
| 00:10:44 | it's so she was using a Go Pro right so it's filming the whole time. |
| 00:10:50 | But it's really confusing footage isn't mine imagine if she's being dunked underwater and |
| 00:10:50 | But it's really confusing footage isn't mine imagine if she's being dunked underwater and |
| 00:10:55 | hold underwater can tell there came a point where she wasn't really thinking in terms of cinematography. Yeah so |
| 00:11:00 | what it actually seems to have happened as she was with her father and I think |
| 00:11:05 | what I can make out from the story is as she was being like dragged out he grabbed the |
| 00:11:10 | other end of the selfie stick and used it to help hold her back. And by the |
| 00:11:15 | time he got there like he had been dunked underwater he wasn't doing so hot he was semi conscious by the time they got back |
| 00:11:15 | time he got there like he had been dunked underwater he wasn't doing so hot he was semi conscious by the time they got back |
| 00:11:21 | but it doesn't seem like anything about the nature of the selfie stick |
| 00:11:26 | itself was lifesaving so much as it was a thing that she could reach |
| 00:11:30 | out. Like imagine if the headline was like a girl saved because she was |
| 00:11:35 | carrying stick you know or like or like miniature golf putter you know what I will |
| 00:11:40 | say that I see why this is a headline they use because Sylvie six not only |
| 00:11:45 | unlike a lot of good press you know they do kind of look dumb. They |
| 00:11:50 | sell them on the piers everywhere I guess and but like you know they're in a |
| 00:11:55 | very new state their new stable of tourists there yet you see I'm out on the Walk of Fame in |
| 00:12:09 | Anybody. |
| 00:12:10 | It's kind of like a shake weight. Actually it's not like a shake weight but |
| 00:12:15 | OK. As it is like a shake weight. If you're just listening this is you're tuning in to |
| 00:12:20 | Brent's ceiling not a lot of choices but the thing is like a shake weight is a |
| 00:12:25 | thing with some function but it's also kind of a gag gift I feel like this is a little bit more |
| 00:12:29 | functional they still kind of like a business pony that I bought this |
| 00:12:32 | . Well what I think it is is I think what you've hit on is that of a function a need |
| 00:12:37 | exists for it but it's a need manufactured by something that's not a necessity. Right |
| 00:12:42 | so it's like oh I can't get out far enough to take a good picture of us. I'll use |
| 00:12:47 | this stick to take a picture it's not like I used to stick to help drive a |
| 00:12:52 | car or use this stick to rescue a girl away but it's |
| 00:12:57 | this this idea of like we got by without it for so long that no one was sitting there |
| 00:13:06 | three feet farther away. Right I think that's why I get so much shit is there is no way to use |
| 00:13:11 | a selfie stick and not look self-centered womanlike. |
| 00:13:15 | I you know I don't know why I feel the need to tell you that I fly a lot but I do fly a lot and |
| 00:13:20 | I have seen this thing happen. It's in airports specifically somebody is |
| 00:13:20 | I have seen this thing happen. It's in airports specifically somebody is |
| 00:13:25 | flying. They had this need to let people know they're traveling maybe it's like so that people |
| 00:13:29 | know why they're not answering their tweets or text or whatever but like they will. I've seen it |
| 00:13:34 | multiple times and in my anecdotal experience it's often a female but that doesn't matter the |
| 00:13:39 | point is that they'll just take this picture of themselves where right before they took the picture like on a |
| 00:13:44 | power walk or something they look bored or depressed or sad or just like travel |
| 00:13:49 | face and then they make this little traverses taking a selfie of us right now it's not |
| 00:13:54 | flattering of me me me that my hair's not on I will tell you Yes yes my |
| 00:14:04 | like there is something inherently kind of like look how great things are here |
| 00:14:08 | there is. So we tend to have kind of when you take a selfie you're |
| 00:14:13 | creating the image of you typically that you're happy and having fun in whatever |
| 00:14:18 | you're doing and still be stick now makes it where not only am I doing all those things but |
| 00:14:23 | also somebody else took the picture for me or I magically just am |
| 00:14:27 | happy without having to reach my arm out |
| 00:14:27 | happy without having to reach my arm out |
| 00:14:29 | . We need to have a much bigger discussion maybe next episode. People send us stories about |
| 00:14:34 | snapchat because I just started doing snapchat as an experiment because I really want to find out the |
| 00:14:44 | snapchat only existed for naughty reasons. Right why else would you want to |
| 00:14:49 | send a picture that immediately disappeared right is that how it works. Well you know that's not |
| 00:14:53 | satire work so you take a picture right you send it to someone and then it like |
| 00:14:58 | last for five seconds and then they can access it but here's the thing not to like |
| 00:15:03 | completely ruined snap chats |
| 00:15:05 | . Secret but as probably everybody out there knows anything that your particular i |
| 00:15:10 | Phone and in your i Phone has on the screen you press your power and here is the |
| 00:15:15 | thing if you do that the person who sent you the picture gets a message that you took a |
| 00:15:19 | screenshot of the picture. |
| 00:15:19 | screenshot of the picture. |
| 00:15:21 | Oh yeah so there's a way to alert the person. But here's the thing I was like What is the |
| 00:15:26 | purpose of this. That's not not not are you sure and I've |
| 00:15:45 | work and they send you it and it goes away because they don't have to worry about their hair looking good they don't have to worry about |
| 00:15:50 | like if it's a flattering angle because it'll be gone in five seconds or so. |
| 00:15:55 | So here's here's kind of like the way that I see it based on what I know which is very little. |
| 00:15:55 | So here's here's kind of like the way that I see it based on what I know which is very little. |
| 00:16:00 | Instagram is a way for someone like me who maybe I've got listeners on this podcast |
| 00:16:05 | maybe I've got viewers on You Tube that might be interested in whatever I feel like taking a picture of today in |
| 00:16:09 | my life so they'll follow me and they'll see what's going on in my life right. Well basically like |
| 00:16:09 | my life so they'll follow me and they'll see what's going on in my life right. Well basically like |
| 00:16:14 | the implication is that anybody gives a crap about my pictures which maybe they do if they're following |
| 00:16:19 | me. Snapchat seems like in the same way that people have normal |
| 00:16:19 | me. Snapchat seems like in the same way that people have normal |
| 00:16:24 | texts and normal tweets and they're not being celebrities or they're not trying to talk to |
| 00:16:29 | their audience. It's like the picture version of that. But I sit there and go I can |
| 00:16:29 | their audience. It's like the picture version of that. But I sit there and go I can |
| 00:16:34 | send somebody a picture via text I guess I just don't personally see what |
| 00:16:39 | distinguishes it as a form of social media when you could just |
| 00:16:44 | text a picture to somebody. |
| 00:16:44 | text a picture to somebody. |
| 00:16:46 | Well I think it's more fun because and I don't know how this went from |
| 00:16:46 | Well I think it's more fun because and I don't know how this went from |
| 00:16:50 | seventy six saving a girl to this but I think the thing with Snapchat is it's far more |
| 00:16:55 | casual So like if you send a picture to someone in their text like they've got that forever if they |
| 00:17:00 | want to you can just sit there and send them a quick five second video of two action figures |
| 00:17:05 | talking to each other just like as a kid I'm killing time and making a small stop shot video and |
| 00:17:09 | sending it to the person. So all this and we can talk about this a lot more |
| 00:17:15 | on Trav McElroy T R A V M C E L R O Y on |
| 00:17:19 | snapchat. So he's a big tell me experience the snapshot experience |
| 00:17:24 | but rather just full of parental Graham on Instagram. |
| 00:17:24 | but rather just full of parental Graham on Instagram. |
| 00:17:32 | All right speaking of nutty stuff Travis. Does anyone you've met in your internet travels have |
| 00:17:37 | any incriminating data about you pictures journal entries etc Anything that |
| 00:17:37 | any incriminating data about you pictures journal entries etc Anything that |
| 00:17:42 | maybe you wouldn't want plastered all over the place. |
| 00:17:44 | I mean probably probably most of it is like live journals I |
| 00:17:44 | I mean probably probably most of it is like live journals I |
| 00:17:49 | wrote when I was better just like sappy or like overly dramatic more |
| 00:17:54 | than it is like actually factually embarrassed you know like college dick pics like funnel around |
| 00:17:54 | than it is like actually factually embarrassed you know like college dick pics like funnel around |
| 00:17:58 | ink so I don't have a very solid memory I don't remember this and they |
| 00:18:03 | didn't break. Who the fuck knows. |
| 00:18:05 | Oh well I mean I'm Me Me Me neither. Anyway |
| 00:18:10 | so Ashley Madison is a Web site that was hacked |
| 00:18:14 | recently. Ashley Madison is basically a dating site for married people who are |
| 00:18:19 | looking for someone to cheat with their slogan is life is short have an affair. Well |
| 00:18:50 | OK Real quick first if anybody knows why the site is |
| 00:18:55 | named like it's a person. Please let me know. I've always wondered why it's called Ashley |
| 00:18:59 | Madison because the dude who runs it who's not at all named Ashley Madison. |
| 00:18:59 | Madison because the dude who runs it who's not at all named Ashley Madison. |
| 00:19:04 | That's a great point yeah I don't know if that was just like the username he used to |
| 00:19:09 | conduits into like sending him money when he started but well maybe a focus group well maybe |
| 00:19:14 | not the idea that why is it called Ashley Madison and not like fast hook ups dot com Maybe you know |
| 00:19:19 | what maybe it's like I don't know I've never. Listen |
| 00:19:24 | here's the thing. Usually at this point in the conversation I would be the very judgment till |
| 00:20:09 | what it has done is made it easier for cheaters to kind of get |
| 00:20:14 | away with their share because if you think about it right I write a letter I send it to a |
| 00:20:19 | lady you know Whittingham or whatever how much does she want |
| 00:20:24 | so much. I said the lady waking him later waking him has a |
| 00:20:28 | ladder. She binds all my letters together and we are talking about three hundred years ago. Yeah right she's got it like |
| 00:20:28 | ladder. She binds all my letters together and we are talking about three hundred years ago. Yeah right she's got it like |
| 00:20:33 | a little ribbon bound packet of letters. Sure right this is a problem |
| 00:20:38 | right. I send her a snap chat it's gone in five seconds. |
| 00:20:43 | Done right. And so something like Ashley Madison I think the promise of it is like |
| 00:20:43 | Done right. And so something like Ashley Madison I think the promise of it is like |
| 00:20:48 | it you can't find it no one's going to like open up the Internet and pull out your |
| 00:20:53 | letters right. |
| 00:21:13 | morality in terms of Puritanism and that's like like the only |
| 00:21:18 | kind of morality is like puritanical biblically based or Judeo Christian based or even |
| 00:21:23 | Abrahamic Leigh base but like this is tricky because it's like on the one hand they're |
| 00:21:43 | upset about Ashley Madison's full delete service which promises to completely |
| 00:21:48 | erase a user's profile and they charge one thousand dollars for that. Well Ashley Madison's |
| 00:21:52 | parent company made almost two million dollars last year specifically from their full delete service and |
| 00:21:57 | yet the hackers say that the user's purchase details including their |
| 00:22:02 | real names are not a race of the full delete service is basically a lie |
| 00:22:07 | . That data is still there and it's like if you if your credit |
| 00:22:12 | card is on file as signing up for Ashley Madison that doesn't necessarily mean you put it in anybody |
| 00:22:12 | card is on file as signing up for Ashley Madison that doesn't necessarily mean you put it in anybody |
| 00:22:16 | but they will and here's a thing that's not new because there was also a problem. |
| 00:22:20 | I want to say it was a year or maybe two ago where right around the horribly |
| 00:22:25 | offensively named happening happened right where all of the ladies and I |
| 00:22:25 | offensively named happening happened right where all of the ladies and I |
| 00:22:30 | can't think there was a beauty when their pictures were hacked and stolen. There was the |
| 00:22:35 | same thing happen with Snapchat where this whole idea of like these pictures disappear and go |
| 00:22:35 | same thing happen with Snapchat where this whole idea of like these pictures disappear and go |
| 00:22:40 | away and they're nowhere anymore. Not so much because there was a sister |
| 00:22:45 | hacking to the Foundling called the snow happening where like hundreds of thousands |
| 00:23:03 | hackers led by somebody whose life was ruined by Ashley Madison and if so |
| 00:23:08 | was it because his girlfriend cheated on him her boyfriend cheated on her or was it because |
| 00:23:12 | he was trying to cheat in the full delete service didn't work. That's the part of the story that really |
| 00:23:17 | intrigues me because you never consider I guess I just never think |
| 00:23:22 | of like sophisticated hackers you think of like Anonymous or whatever and Anonymous is trying to like |
| 00:23:27 | stop things that I think are they have a different kind of morality |
| 00:23:31 | . |
| 00:23:37 | you describe someone who used the site got caught and I was |
| 00:23:42 | like I'm going to get back at you or I mean you write option |
| 00:23:47 | to somebody who is very puritanical or very like |
| 00:23:51 | moral do gooder like I don't agree with what this site |
| 00:23:51 | moral do gooder like I don't agree with what this site |
| 00:23:56 | does. I watch my friends' marriages fall apart because of it or something. So now I'm going to |
| 00:24:01 | take it down from the inside. Or option three. It's completely wild card. |
| 00:24:05 | Neither of those but somebody who just went like what do I want to do today. Me Actually now I think it's a lot of |
| 00:24:10 | attention but I could hack the shit out of them. |
| 00:24:10 | attention but I could hack the shit out of them. |
| 00:24:12 | I guess I just feel like you know I met a couple hackers at this |
| 00:24:17 | convention called anime Midwest a few weeks ago and I was like Oh so you're professional hackers I kind of |
| 00:24:22 | like not as they scoffed at that but I was like so. When you do. And they're like we get |
| 00:24:32 | like those are white hats right. That's the thing like. So what I'm saying is |
| 00:24:37 | if there's all this money to be made if you're a legitimately good hacker in the corporate |
| 00:24:42 | world what are you doing. |
| 00:24:42 | world what are you doing. |
| 00:24:44 | That's what I'm saying is that's why I think that this sounds like not one or two I |
| 00:24:49 | lean towards option three because I think this is somebody who's not doing it for money not doing it |
| 00:25:15 | this in the past I think that we were heading |
| 00:25:19 | weather above the surface or below. |
| 00:25:22 | As a society we're heading toward more. |
| 00:25:28 | Blurry definition of monogamy or rather a more blurry sense of right and wrong when |
| 00:25:33 | it comes to relationship arrangements. |
| 00:25:45 | I misspoke I think what I mean is that like the cookie cutter here is how we do things in |
| 00:25:49 | relationship monogamy or nothing right and that's kind of becoming like you're |
| 00:25:54 | out of the way. I'm just hearing more and more about often hidden or |
| 00:25:59 | secretive coupled it's like in the same way that like when we were younger going to school in |
| 00:25:59 | secretive coupled it's like in the same way that like when we were younger going to school in |
| 00:26:03 | Oklahoma we knew a lot of closeted gay people that were not closeted us their |
| 00:26:08 | friends they were closeted to their family back home and their friends back home and I feel like |
| 00:26:08 | friends they were closeted to their family back home and their friends back home and I feel like |
| 00:26:13 | now I know of all these people that have a monogamous or non monogamous relationship |
| 00:26:18 | or something going on where they feel like they have to hide it and if nothing else if this |
| 00:26:23 | exposes the fact that you know what there are people who are good people and they are I mean |
| 00:26:37 | ninety nine percent of what you said. |
| 00:26:39 | Right the last syllable the last syllable. The problem is is that a site like Ashley |
| 00:26:44 | Madison right because of the secrecy involved in it. I think |
| 00:26:44 | Madison right because of the secrecy involved in it. I think |
| 00:26:48 | inherently says this is not an agreement I have with my partner. This is not a thing that we've |
| 00:26:53 | talked about this is not an open relationship. This is my partner thinks we're |
| 00:27:06 | sometimes increased awareness of the ways in which humans are actually |
| 00:27:11 | not doing what their culture says they're supposed to be doing is a way to sort of |
| 00:27:16 | show how we all kind of fall short so maybe we should change the standards by which we live |
| 00:27:21 | and be open to other possibilities. Yes but still maintaining the |
| 00:27:25 | agreements that you have right like betrayal of an agreement with someone you're supposed to love |
| 00:27:30 | and be a partner of is bad. |
| 00:27:32 | That's all I'm saying let's just leave it there. That's bad. Yeah I will say this I'm very |
| 00:27:41 | plays out. Also interested to see if it has any |
| 00:27:45 | ramifications whatsoever if it's the kind of thing where it's like man a lot of |
| 00:27:50 | shit went down and then two weeks later nobody talked about it what sucks about it. |
| 00:27:50 | shit went down and then two weeks later nobody talked about it what sucks about it. |
| 00:27:56 | Maybe maybe not for everyone but what sucks about it for a few choice people is let's say they release those |
| 00:28:01 | thirty seven million names. Well like OK how many people are going to go to |
| 00:28:01 | thirty seven million names. Well like OK how many people are going to go to |
| 00:28:05 | sift through the data for their husband or their wife's name. However if |
| 00:28:10 | there's any celebrities any mayors presidents anybody that's their fault. |
| 00:28:15 | Well I agree. What I'm saying though is they'll take the |
| 00:28:20 | brunt of the you know quote scandal where is like. I think there's a lot of |
| 00:28:24 | people that unless somebody decides to make an easily |
| 00:28:24 | people that unless somebody decides to make an easily |
| 00:28:29 | searchable accessible database of is your husband or wife cheating |
| 00:28:34 | on you based on this data I think a lot of people are going to go who you know |
| 00:28:39 | I guess I'm going to stop cheating now because I am afraid to. |
| 00:28:55 | Remind me which one is Cecil the Paladin Oh yeah yeah yeah oh yeah. |
| 00:29:00 | Paladin later and then you got your buddy who does jumping right is that moment drame Oh |
| 00:29:05 | man I love that game |
| 00:29:21 | turned to stone to stop the wall. |
| 00:29:22 | Yeah it's all a spoiler. Well of come on they've only had twenty |
| 00:29:27 | three years to play this game here is the reason I ask. There have been a lot I mean I'm not I'm not |
| 00:29:32 | telling anyone anything they don't are you know there have been leaps and bounds in the world of |
| 00:29:37 | video games I mean all the time since since the early days but just recently |
| 00:29:42 | I feel like we've seen a huge jump in just the last like three years. Oh yeah right. |
| 00:29:46 | Stuff like A R V E R. Kind of like camera control or |
| 00:29:51 | less I mean look at the we like that kind of thing if you had said to me when I was eight. Like |
| 00:29:51 | less I mean look at the we like that kind of thing if you had said to me when I was eight. Like |
| 00:29:56 | there will be wireless controllers like that in and of itself would have been a man I mean the fact that you're |
| 00:30:01 | P.S.V. to play your Play Station four in an airport across the world like |
| 00:30:06 | that still I cannot believe we are already well on the amount of shit that I can do on my |
| 00:30:11 | X. Box The one where I'm just like so basically like this is my new media center. |
| 00:30:14 | Yeah OK cool I mean you actually can hack Ashley Madison with your X.-Box one there you go. |
| 00:30:19 | Do you remember when the P S three came out one of the things is like we hooked a bunch of them together to help like |
| 00:30:24 | solve complex matter. Yeah I mean I was cool shit. Here's why I bring it up |
| 00:30:24 | solve complex matter. Yeah I mean I was cool shit. Here's why I bring it up |
| 00:30:30 | there is a company called the void. It's a startup company and |
| 00:30:35 | if you just watch the promo video what they're publicizing it's a British company |
| 00:30:40 | who is looking to open up in Utah. The first |
| 00:31:08 | says on their website and on all the coverage I found is basically it would be like |
| 00:31:13 | you pay by the half hour like thirty dollars per person for the half hour you get your |
| 00:31:18 | have to exude I have to suit is like a full sensory thing so like if |
| 00:31:23 | you're wearing a chest plate picture like a laser tag chest plate that you would feel the impact of |
| 00:31:28 | bullets right right or something like that a little vibrating servos or that little and you're trying to get around |
| 00:31:33 | your like your gloves on so like if you feel like you're holding something like pushing aside a curtain you |
| 00:31:38 | feel the current Right which is super cool. Oh yeah. And |
| 00:31:53 | people eight to ten pods for the whole thing so when I first read Pods I was picturing like |
| 00:31:58 | one person in a pod and then you walk around. I thought if three this year it's basically like a |
| 00:32:03 | disk I would say about three feet in diameter. Your shoes |
| 00:32:08 | are specially matched with the material so you can walk and I write and there's a belt around |
| 00:32:13 | in middle to hold in place it's like it's like a mini directional treadmill so you can walk around Sky rim |
| 00:32:18 | exact your feet whichever way you turn your writing on a hallway you're holding a fake gun. You |
| 00:32:23 | shake the gun fire kind of thing right. But this according to the video |
| 00:32:23 | shake the gun fire kind of thing right. But this according to the video |
| 00:32:28 | is like a maze that you're walking around it. Now here is why I don't believe |
| 00:32:32 | it. All right we talk about this to you before the show I think that this |
| 00:32:42 | gameplay because I've used this stuff before I've used the our helmets I've used |
| 00:32:47 | you know I've watched movies and I played games in it. I did at E three a game |
| 00:32:52 | called the kitchen which is like a horror survival game and it is |
| 00:32:57 | a complete sensory deprivation right when you have this on like |
| 00:33:02 | it's a very off putting. The first time I did it about ten minutes and I was like oh |
| 00:33:07 | there could be anything in the room with me right now. |
| 00:33:09 | Some could have just walked into the room and I would have no right not to name drop but I'm about to name drop Internet |
| 00:33:14 | sensation John Tron is a guy that I hang out with occasionally in New York City he has an Oculus Rift |
| 00:33:19 | and he was going to set up something so I could watch this demo and play this demo of it and when he was |
| 00:33:19 | and he was going to set up something so I could watch this demo and play this demo of it and when he was |
| 00:33:24 | setting it up with the helmet on his head it was all I could do NOT to put a poster on the |
| 00:33:29 | back of his head. It was just like I am a Dum-Dum or whatever like what kick me you know because because |
| 00:33:34 | no one can. When you have the helmet on you cannot perceive the real world around you. |
| 00:33:38 | So in this video you see people like walking around back to back firing guns and |
| 00:33:43 | like holding swords to face off against a dragon and what the thing is if that was a real they're just going to be |
| 00:33:48 | running into each other and what if somebody just like put something on the floor that's not |
| 00:33:48 | running into each other and what if somebody just like put something on the floor that's not |
| 00:33:53 | showing up and right then down to like pick up a note you find on the ground or someone comes running through in terms of |
| 00:33:57 | right now if in fact it is a car which stands for |
| 00:34:02 | augmented reality that I buy basically how augmented reality works is you |
| 00:34:02 | augmented reality that I buy basically how augmented reality works is you |
| 00:34:07 | wear similar glasses but you're in the same place so like if you're in your living room |
| 00:34:12 | you're still seeing your living room except the glasses show you things like on the walls or like |
| 00:34:17 | on a table so you can like pick stuff up but it's projecting stuff onto the room you're |
| 00:34:22 | in rather than completely changing the environment you're in. I |
| 00:34:43 | you know the advocate of me who is hoping this sort of thing could go where I wanted to be real so bad I was like |
| 00:34:48 | let's just go a little side if I for a second. Isn't it possible that you could have a |
| 00:34:53 | V.C.R. helmet that knows where the other haptic suits the other V. our |
| 00:34:53 | V.C.R. helmet that knows where the other haptic suits the other V. our |
| 00:34:58 | helmets are so it's putting them in the game world but also could essentially scan a |
| 00:35:02 | foreign object that it doesn't know where they are not necessarily represent them in real time but if |
| 00:35:02 | foreign object that it doesn't know where they are not necessarily represent them in real time but if |
| 00:35:07 | there's an obstacle on the floor that has any depth or weight to it it could show you a little |
| 00:35:12 | blinking like hey we know what the fuck this is. |
| 00:35:19 | very hopeful and I know you but here's the problem even if we |
| 00:35:24 | were to hit a point where they were so real time right that whatever you saw |
| 00:35:29 | out of the front was the. I just I find it hard to believe that like if you |
| 00:35:29 | out of the front was the. I just I find it hard to believe that like if you |
| 00:35:34 | tripped your reactions to like falling and catching yourself or |
| 00:35:39 | keeping yourself from running into someone would be at the same speed if you weren't |
| 00:35:39 | keeping yourself from running into someone would be at the same speed if you weren't |
| 00:35:44 | watching. Even if it was like a millisecond different right. That like |
| 00:35:48 | inherent. I feel like you're going to lose a limb now. |
| 00:35:53 | Maybe not maybe that's just me assuming that. But I feel like suddenly your brain's going to |
| 00:35:58 | disconnect and be like this isn't right |
| 00:35:58 | disconnect and be like this isn't right |
| 00:36:00 | . And like you're going to panic a little bit let me let me let me further devil's advocate you by saying |
| 00:36:05 | this is the game of soccer. |
| 00:36:05 | this is the game of soccer. |
| 00:36:08 | Many of our listeners will know it as a football is a game |
| 00:36:12 | that is very popular the world over very very popular I pronounced it popular |
| 00:36:17 | . It's very popular the world over. And yet when you play it. |
| 00:36:22 | There is a risk of tripping I mean true. |
| 00:36:25 | Listen I'm not saying that there is not a risk involved in other things but this also leads into |
| 00:36:30 | my next point which is this is not video |
| 00:36:40 | involves risk. It involves physical exertion athleticism and I'm |
| 00:36:45 | not saying this is not a joke on the fact that video game players don't have any kind of physical |
| 00:36:49 | prowess. I'm saying that this it's like the difference between the Indian |
| 00:36:54 | warping. They're two completely different things right. This is what we're talking about is |
| 00:36:59 | this is a completely different thing it is. I will believe that you want me and I have to exude in |
| 00:37:04 | like one of those disc things right. That's barely video games right |
| 00:37:04 | like one of those disc things right. That's barely video games right |
| 00:37:09 | . But I still think that once you introduce a physical element. We're |
| 00:37:14 | not talking about video games anymore. |
| 00:37:16 | Well what I see and I understand we and I get all of that but I can still sit |
| 00:37:21 | on the couch to play way well and the thing is it's like I also don't own a week so I |
| 00:37:26 | think it's not a Video games as we know them. It's like you know it's a |
| 00:37:30 | heightened version of real space and real physical exertion but |
| 00:37:30 | heightened version of real space and real physical exertion but |
| 00:37:36 | I feel like this is a thing that you know will will still appeal to gamers and they're going to I |
| 00:37:41 | mean let me ask you this if it's not video games will they just |
| 00:37:56 | troopers. C.R. Taman because basically my Artane meant well. You're welcome folks. |
| 00:38:01 | My favorite thing to do with them so far is like you can watch movies in a movie theater wearing the |
| 00:38:05 | goggles and it's like you're the aspect ratio is so correct that you feel like you're |
| 00:38:15 | an airplane. |
| 00:38:16 | Putting on headphones that block out the sound putting on your glasses that block out everything else and here it |
| 00:38:21 | is at a movie theater watching a movie I feel like this is where we're headed we've got a world with |
| 00:38:26 | McDonald's All day we've got a world where Taco Bell is starting to deliver |
| 00:38:32 | and I feel like before we know it it's like this it's like in one thousand nine hundred there was a movie |
| 00:38:37 | about the horror of what if robots put us in a virtual |
| 00:38:41 | world we didn't know about. |
| 00:38:43 | It's fifteen years later and not necessarily for worse possibly for better |
| 00:38:48 | we're slowly but surely electing to put ourselves in a virtual world. |
| 00:38:51 | I also I want to mention something very positive about virtual reality one of the things it's being used for |
| 00:39:06 | kind of like help condition him back into like oh yeah like I can you control this |
| 00:39:11 | I'm in control of how I feel about this and help them relive it without like it being a |
| 00:39:16 | nightmare without it being like an attack that they can like re kind of |
| 00:39:20 | acclimate to how to survive through that thing. So I mean there's stuff like that and |
| 00:39:25 | I also could see it being a thing for like cooking right where you're using an augmented reality and |
| 00:39:30 | watching the show as you're like cutting the thing |
| 00:39:32 | . Yes all kinds of educational tools like it now that you're all right |
| 00:39:37 | and now that you're virtually doing it when I think about like Q. and A panels right one of the things |
| 00:39:42 | that you go to a convention for is to you know go see somebody and ask them a question. |
| 00:39:47 | Definite Well what about like if you know if Brunell floss or trends like these are still a thing in |
| 00:39:51 | twenty years when they have the stuff down pat and we can host a Q. and A where everyone who |
| 00:39:56 | comes to our Q. and A third home and we're at home but they've all got a front row seat. |
| 00:40:00 | I mean imagine Dungeons and Dragons you could have your table go to like everybody sitting in four |
| 00:40:05 | different states and you just have the thing in the middle of the table that everyone's looking into and they're going |
| 00:40:15 | applications involve staying in one place and not running around swinging |
| 00:40:20 | fakes or well maybe at some point what's needed is a button that. |
| 00:40:23 | Immediately you know like even if it's just a lever that pulls up the |
| 00:40:28 | screen off your eyes if you need to immediately see. |
| 00:40:32 | I mean that's a well you don't let me say this. OK if you're listening scientists and I assume you |
| 00:40:37 | are. Here's what we need right like transition lenses |
| 00:40:37 | are. Here's what we need right like transition lenses |
| 00:40:42 | that are photo and sound sensitive so that when you're using them if a |
| 00:40:47 | sound happens in the room you're in or somebody walks in they immediately |
| 00:40:51 | go clear. |
| 00:40:51 | go clear. |
| 00:40:53 | I feel like there's some kinks to work out because if you're in the middle of a really fun game or a really scary |
| 00:40:58 | game the idea of it just stopping dead because one thing what if you have a cat you know if you're in a |
| 00:41:02 | studio partner would you rather your gang get interrupted or somebody touches you on the |
| 00:41:07 | shoulder and you shoot yourself I guess I hear what you're saying it just needs to be customizable and |
| 00:41:17 | many years to come. |
| 00:41:18 | If anybody's really interested in this kind of thing check out a book called Ready player one. I |
| 00:41:23 | can't recommend it enough. The audio book version is read by Will Wheaton It's incredible. One of my favorite |
| 00:41:27 | books. |
| 00:41:29 | Check it out. Books still a thing. |
| 00:41:38 | Now it's time for the wife five of the week. Each week we scour the internet for examples of people doing |
| 00:41:43 | good things and being good people and we choose one of them to whom we'd like to give an Internet high five |
| 00:41:48 | or five so this week's Y five is on the lighter side it goes out to |
| 00:41:53 | an unnamed sousaphone player who is this massive |
| 00:41:53 | an unnamed sousaphone player who is this massive |
| 00:41:58 | sousaphone for the record is basically the type of tube that wraps around your body watching men |
| 00:42:03 | tuba. Yeah yeah. Instead of just sitting in an orchestra. |
| 00:42:03 | tuba. Yeah yeah. Instead of just sitting in an orchestra. |
| 00:42:06 | So as you might imagine a lot of |
| 00:42:11 | total winners in our country of the United States have been rallying around |
| 00:42:11 | total winners in our country of the United States have been rallying around |
| 00:42:16 | the Confederate flag or the flag that has been called of the Confederate flag |
| 00:42:21 | . Not to get into that but basically like there was a K.K.K. rally in South |
| 00:42:26 | Carolina and you know you can sometimes protest |
| 00:42:26 | Carolina and you know you can sometimes protest |
| 00:42:30 | angrily you can hold up a sign you can be kind of a squeaky wheel and that's fine. |
| 00:42:35 | But this guy had a very specific and I think much more |
| 00:42:40 | effective way to protest. |
| 00:42:45 | He I mean he protested by trolling and I think this goes to show that trolling can be |
| 00:42:49 | awful but it can also be a very good we will troll for girlies your |
| 00:42:54 | powers of trolling for light. |
| 00:43:40 | . |
| 00:43:44 | Seems to be OK with one or two guys kind of looking at him like you know hey wait a second |
| 00:43:49 | what are you doing with like others and. |
| 00:44:00 | new so it sound like it sounds inherently silly |
| 00:44:05 | and here's the thing here's what I love others I did a band in middle school I played |
| 00:44:10 | trombone and I played baritone which is like a small team but also called you |
| 00:44:15 | phony I'm and. |
| 00:44:22 | thing one day I will use this power for good. That's why I was so impressed with |
| 00:44:26 | this. This person had to like see the K.K.K. rally or like know was happening and go |
| 00:44:31 | Oh my to move. |
| 00:44:33 | Right right the moment I've been waiting for. |
| 00:44:36 | And yeah like one time I was I was at a |
| 00:44:41 | wedding but it was the night before we were on the hotel best friend's wedding and there was a prom |
| 00:44:46 | in the hotel and there was a piano that I really wanted to play but it was near |
| 00:44:50 | the prom and they had like rent a cops. So I was like I bet if I put on my tux for |
| 00:44:55 | tomorrow I ll out they'll let me play the piano that's near this problem they're trying to |
| 00:45:00 | block off. Well you know this cop had already told me to leave the area |
| 00:45:05 | before then he walked away and then I started playing the piano and he was like charging in like a |
| 00:45:10 | very purposeful March very like angry like I'm so mad that |
| 00:45:15 | you're that you're defying me and I started playing the dragnet the while |
| 00:45:20 | he was walking up to me by a bomb |
| 00:45:22 | . Everybody laughs he looks like a fool and the thing is ultimately that was me kind of being a dick |
| 00:45:27 | to a police officer this was using the power of music and |
| 00:45:31 | comedy for the forces of good and in a nonviolent kind of |
| 00:45:36 | awesome way and you know Brent to use it to protest the |
| 00:45:36 | awesome way and you know Brent to use it to protest the |
| 00:45:41 | K.K.K. rally takes a big brass ones. |
| 00:45:45 | You are truly a grand wizard of comedy |
| 00:45:47 | . |
| 00:46:01 | we appreciate you. Yeah there it is like I'm not afraid to say it I don't care who knows it. I like |
| 00:46:05 | you. Brent likes you. We think hey whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa I was not a nobody that |
| 00:46:10 | I like you Brent is warming up to you. I mean you're growing on me. Yeah |
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| 00:00:11 | Disneyland became the latest theme park to ban the tech device everyone loves to hate. Joining |
| 00:00:16 | museums concert arenas and sporting stadiums in getting rid of selfie sticks |
| 00:00:21 | the tool to get more folks in your group photos has been cited as a safety concern and a |
| 00:00:26 | nuisance that obstructs the view for others. But clearly we're still going to want to get |
| 00:00:26 | nuisance that obstructs the view for others. But clearly we're still going to want to get |
| 00:00:31 | group shots this summer right. So what to do. Well I've got a few ideas |
| 00:00:35 | . Let's start with learning how to extend your arm just a little better for a good |
| 00:00:40 | group selfie. Push out that arm and raise it as high as you can go. The upward move should |
| 00:00:45 | get more folks into the frame. How about downloading some apps. There are |
| 00:00:45 | get more folks into the frame. How about downloading some apps. There are |
| 00:00:50 | just tons of them out there that will digitally alter your field of view and give you a |
| 00:00:54 | simulated wider angle thus getting more folks into the shot. Why |
| 00:00:54 | simulated wider angle thus getting more folks into the shot. Why |
| 00:00:59 | Bengal selfie is free it has a burst mode to take four selfies in a row without you having to |
| 00:01:04 | put your finger on the shutter while wide selfie has you take three different shots to |
| 00:01:09 | get everyone in on the left middle and right and then it stitches them all together. |
| 00:01:09 | get everyone in on the left middle and right and then it stitches them all together. |
| 00:01:14 | Now those apps are for the i Phone for Android try pro capture which has a wide |
| 00:01:19 | shot mode to expand the view. Now these apps will be helpful and no one's going to take your camera |
| 00:01:24 | away but the image is not going to be as sharp as this is pretty much all digital magic to produce the |
| 00:01:34 | accessory lens last week in the space I reviewed two new wide angle lenses that I really like |
| 00:01:39 | from Moondog labs in a little clip I just got in others from M. cam light in |
| 00:01:43 | his case that I'm looking at and I'll be back at you in July with a full review. The idea is that you |
| 00:01:43 | his case that I'm looking at and I'll be back at you in July with a full review. The idea is that you |
| 00:01:48 | put a good lens over your i Phone camera and it will greatly expand the point of view and make your |
| 00:01:53 | smartphone videos and photos really come to life. The old clip which has a wide angle on |
| 00:01:58 | one side also gives you a telephoto lens as well on the other side and it sells for just about one |
| 00:02:03 | hundred bucks. The Moondog labs anamorphic lenses targeted towards video |
| 00:02:03 | hundred bucks. The Moondog labs anamorphic lenses targeted towards video |
| 00:02:08 | pros who want to complete a wide view that we've seen in the movies complete with black bars on the bottom and |
| 00:02:12 | top. It sells for one hundred seventy five dollars and it looks fabulous. Now |
| 00:02:12 | top. It sells for one hundred seventy five dollars and it looks fabulous. Now |
| 00:02:17 | finally you could ditch the lens of apps in just spring for a new fifty dollar i Phone case |
| 00:02:22 | which happens to stick to any service the antigravity case from a company called |
| 00:02:27 | Make A tiny cork sticks the walls mirrors computer screens and the like. So just |
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| 00:01:35 | Today the Little Yesterday IMF emerging i'm Jes now you're probably a |
| 00:01:40 | little bit Yesterday because it was one of those to his workers like the fighting but to |
| 00:01:59 | done at the end of the month as Schengen are actually it will hopefully die down plenty |
| 00:02:04 | of maximum |
| 00:02:09 | battle over social media because I just get too worked up with everything that's happening right now is too much |
| 00:02:28 | purpose. Some of the feature his ministry called for the term autopilot |
| 00:02:34 | basically called out a pilot misleading when the features merely a driver assistance |
| 00:02:38 | system and not a fully automated control of the vehicle that can apply and drivers can |
| 00:02:43 | you know reduce their own awareness while they're using at Tesla justified the term in response |
| 00:02:48 | stating that aerospace. This is use the term for decades and that the company made it clear |
| 00:02:53 | from the start the driver should always pay attention while using this feature. |
| 00:02:58 | Basically KB as a which is kind of the German Transport |
| 00:03:03 | Association sent a letter to Tesla owners reiterating the drivers are required to |
| 00:03:08 | provide constant attention to the road You know this really can't i'm comes down to |
| 00:03:08 | provide constant attention to the road You know this really can't i'm comes down to |
| 00:03:12 | consumer misunderstanding what you think I think it's a myth named |
| 00:03:17 | trying to like Little Christmas they were trying to be funny like |
| 00:03:17 | trying to like Little Christmas they were trying to be funny like |
| 00:03:22 | on a pilot but he You know when you're dealing with people safety and I get gas it's |
| 00:03:27 | been used in the airline industry for decades but now it's a little harder to |
| 00:03:32 | become an airline pilot than it is to get a driver's license also more things to hit |
| 00:03:37 | while you drive. Car then when you're flying a plane so you know you do need to be |
| 00:03:42 | paying attention and I think that to tesla's like |
| 00:03:42 | paying attention and I think that to tesla's like |
| 00:03:47 | to see in our stuff got them a meal on mosques Qt stuff got a Moan Little bit |
| 00:03:51 | in trouble here and what people's lives so I think Yes they |
| 00:04:00 | Arrows the be able to function in aerospace I understand why that's tesla's |
| 00:04:05 | position and maybe I understand why they named it this is what I don't get about that is that the I |
| 00:04:10 | would say the majority of people don't actually know what our pilot means an airplane they think they |
| 00:04:10 | would say the majority of people don't actually know what our pilot means an airplane they think they |
| 00:04:15 | know and maybe they're right maybe they're wrong. Long may be that you know like I don't even |
| 00:04:20 | know exactly what the extent is of autopilot in the airplane so the name of that and say well people should |
| 00:04:25 | know what it means because there's been an airplane for years none of US ever flown airplanes on how are we going to know |
| 00:04:30 | the extent to which our pilot actually takes over all function of the plane Maybe It does but I think |
| 00:04:34 | people how you all have different understanding of what that means and so. It's going to create confusion just for that |
| 00:04:39 | reason alone I think that I mean I don't think that that's just what their lawyers are still Reich well they use it in |
| 00:04:44 | the plane's them ran in a fried every code says Apple has |
| 00:04:49 | hired a I expert Russ salad could not whose work focuses on neural |
| 00:04:53 | networks voice and image recognition the New hire tweeted that he would be joining US. Well |
| 00:04:53 | networks voice and image recognition the New hire tweeted that he would be joining US. Well |
| 00:04:58 | as a director of Ai research he would continue his job as a |
| 00:05:03 | professor of deep learning at Carnegie Mellon University and University is always look he's also looking to |
| 00:05:17 | interested. You should define check out I think it's key and i'm guessing that Apple probably |
| 00:05:22 | helped him or approved this Tweet he that he's saying i'm staying |
| 00:05:27 | at Carnegie Mellon because that's the complaint that art that Uber and other big companies are getting their just |
| 00:05:36 | researchers and using them for their Corporation. And so I think they were being careful about that |
| 00:05:41 | i'm still going to be a professor don't worry i'm so Yeah I mean they they need to |
| 00:05:46 | think they need to do better in Ai Apple does and I think part of the |
| 00:05:55 | information in Ai research is based on sharing. Research with other people |
| 00:06:00 | and that's how we learned I mean Walt Mossberg and recode's have a big |
| 00:06:05 | article about you know kind of putting is because there's a step down saying Syria |
| 00:06:10 | is Horrible when it comes to a lie. So I mean are the |
| 00:06:14 | obviously Apple has a lot of work to do in comparison with some of the other competitors I find what's |
| 00:06:19 | interesting about this is just kind of the challenge that seem to be looming for |
| 00:06:38 | need there is no dollar amount that is too high for them to do this and so you know you take you you |
| 00:06:43 | mentioned Uber for example they had a research packed with Carnegie Mellon last |
| 00:06:48 | year and then follow that up earlier this year by hiring way four of the faculty and thirty |
| 00:07:17 | places that we send you know are the people who get smarter not easy when they're |
| 00:07:22 | all being pulled away to France. Samsung isn't just a phone |
| 00:07:27 | company with battery issues Oh no it's also a chip company may just announced the New |
| 00:07:32 | mexico's seven dual seventy two seventy chip for wearable devices for |
| 00:07:32 | mexico's seven dual seventy two seventy chip for wearable devices for |
| 00:07:37 | starters it's the first fourteen unarmed or Nana meter have never know how to say that man |
| 00:07:42 | made or wearable process or affirm twenty eight animators before it. That makes it much |
| 00:07:46 | much scholar of smaller in scale and not only does that ship manage WiFi Bluetooth and |
| 00:07:51 | GBS some boards also packing support for Lt de and that ultimately |
| 00:07:56 | altogether just kind of paved the way for a smaller footprint or actually respond |
| 00:08:01 | watches that can shift to mobile networks without the need for an entire. A separate LTE |
| 00:08:06 | chip taking up all that space inside the upper hand in nineteen I don't |
| 00:08:26 | personally it seems that unnecessary to Me I mean I suppose there are applications where it might be useful if |
| 00:08:31 | you you know and maybe that's in kind of in the exercise fitness realm of things but I would have my |
| 00:08:36 | phone on Me so I don't ever really to I don't really care of attackers that's going give me a better battery life let's |
| 00:08:41 | say GM I mean this is this. This is a good idea |
| 00:08:46 | for people who want smaller smartwatches they want to use their watch as |
| 00:08:46 | for people who want smaller smartwatches they want to use their watch as |
| 00:08:51 | a sound but I mean I don't know like I know that like we said this before same Sun is a |
| 00:08:55 | huge company and but I do I do feel like every time I read a Samson story |
| 00:09:00 | now I feel like i've lost a little bit of trust in them in general You know not just. The fact that |
| 00:09:05 | that i'm the fall You know the note seven catastrophe but how they handled it in |
| 00:09:10 | only Cal they i'm You Know tried to cover it up how they did |
| 00:09:15 | there they're testing so I don't know you know i'm just like OK will greet you have a new chip |
| 00:09:20 | was actually made is not a prose dot amuse sell. I |
| 00:09:25 | mean the fact that they have of fourteen men meter processor and |
| 00:09:25 | mean the fact that they have of fourteen men meter processor and |
| 00:09:30 | nothing is small and it does a lot so I guess we're where the disconnect comes from Me aside |
| 00:09:34 | from all the battery stuff actually has to do with battery so Maybe It does kind of time they'll at |
| 00:09:39 | least a little bit is the fact that consumers and wearables want a law. |
| 00:09:44 | Dot like think a new rather all regret that think they want all of these |
| 00:09:49 | things but really the reality of that doesn't match up to it right like in order to be able to do |
| 00:09:59 | the small form factor watch that does all of these things but still small but still very good battery |
| 00:10:04 | changes can have. All that now the strings this down smaller so maybe that makes |
| 00:10:09 | room for a little bit larger battery let's say but I don't know if that's significant enough to get the |
| 00:10:13 | footprint down to the point where everybody gets everything that they want not where we're at right now battery |
| 00:10:28 | most popular and wearable so I don't know i'm it just seems to Me like they were looking for something to |
| 00:10:33 | release as a look at what we've done good. It's good there's other about |
| 00:10:38 | what's changed in her a little bit. Well Netflix reported third quarter |
| 00:10:43 | earnings today with eighty six point seven four million current |
| 00:11:07 | percent and extended training in response today's earnings report so you know |
| 00:11:12 | when Netflix obviously We talk about a lot is really growing they had a little bit of a speed bump when they You |
| 00:11:17 | know the first they raise their prices but then you know those of US would. And on the service for a |
| 00:11:22 | long time were grandfathered in but then you know then we got grandfathered out |
| 00:11:32 | Happy paying for it is not too much there's so much content I mean they talk |
| 00:11:36 | about Stranger things the Narcos were like Big Big for than a lot of people want to watch |
| 00:11:41 | those shows go on and then you know you look at like HBO which has West World which I Love |
| 00:11:41 | those shows go on and then you know you look at like HBO which has West World which I Love |
| 00:11:46 | and it's a great show but I. You can see how sort of Desperate HBO is |
| 00:11:51 | to keep up with Netflix You Know like they have to have a show like that they have to |
| 00:11:56 | have something as Big of game of Thrones because game of Thrones has an ending like that you know it's not going |
| 00:12:10 | HBO should be afraid the Army Netflix and then their plan is just |
| 00:12:15 | continue Rampages up faster faster faster what Netflix started doing a couple years ago when they started doing the |
| 00:12:20 | explosives is they started to kind of tackle the criticism that was when |
| 00:12:20 | explosives is they started to kind of tackle the criticism that was when |
| 00:12:25 | the networks never has a library of movies that actually really want to watch. Paulina movies from the |
| 00:12:29 | eighties and nineties and low Bloch and what they've done is they've really kind of targeting |
| 00:12:39 | cable and there their content is quality enough to stand up to that |
| 00:12:44 | statement and that time time again so a dollar price hike comes along of course people get up. But |
| 00:12:48 | Ours because Nobody likes change but ultimately it didn't seem to affect really much of |
| 00:12:53 | anything at all you know it's all still only nine ninety nine and feels I |
| 00:12:58 | think a lot of people's mind perfectly justifiable when you have shows like Stranger things |
| 00:13:03 | and these other really successful shows coming out proving the quality of their original |
| 00:13:12 | and that they have and making it more compelling for that reason You just happen to get the other stuff thrown in |
| 00:13:18 | and i'm in Maine as Reed Hastings or C L M said |
| 00:13:22 | |
| 00:13:32 | was quoted saying movie theaters are strangling the movie business You Know so it's their fault |
| 00:13:37 | that we're You know not seeing better movies in the theaters and You know we talked a couple |
| 00:13:41 | weeks ago that they're going to start showing some. And Netflix movies in a few theaters so that |
| 00:13:46 | is going to be there I guess next thing to conquer them |
| 00:13:46 | is going to be there I guess next thing to conquer them |
| 00:13:52 | and I Wonder if down the line how much of a story it becomes or how |
| 00:13:56 | much of an issue becomes as far as the threat to Netflix not computing Studios not competing |
| 00:13:56 | much of an issue becomes as far as the threat to Netflix not computing Studios not competing |
| 00:14:01 | companies or whatever but like daycare. Perhaps because we're not of You Know. |
| 00:14:06 | So I mean Netflix relies on that day the Whatever You Know data plan |
| 00:14:06 | So I mean Netflix relies on that day the Whatever You Know data plan |
| 00:14:11 | is that you have at home or on a device or whatever it's incumbent on You having enough to |
| 00:14:16 | support all that streaming content as we move higher resin all that kind of stuff are |
| 00:14:46 | Robinson like you know what I don't want to watch anything Anthony more like that's not going to happen |
| 00:14:51 | really start we were always one a Stranger things' R West world and will pay for whoever will give them to US |
| 00:14:57 | but Yeah I mean it's too bad that that's where the the block is like can |
| 00:15:06 | just in time for the. Those making holiday travel arrangements Google has improved Google flights to |
| 00:15:11 | let users know when a given price is expected to expire and or |
| 00:15:16 | go up so users can snap up those good deals before it's too late is also get a count |
| 00:15:21 | down to the next price fluctuations as Wells the prize that it's expected to jump |
| 00:15:26 | to just kind of proving even. More that and so much of this seems random behind the scenes but there's |
| 00:15:31 | actually a lot of data behind it was also recommending alternate routes and dates |
| 00:15:36 | when a user punches in a destination and tend to You Know save the most money basically |
| 00:15:41 | based on historical data that last part kind of reminds me of a little bit |
| 00:15:46 | of of one of My favorite years now. Navigation were going along and then it decides Oh well actually we could |
| 00:15:46 | of of one of My favorite years now. Navigation were going along and then it decides Oh well actually we could |
| 00:15:51 | save you ten minutes if we wrote You over here and that's actually a really good if you have flexibility in a |
| 00:15:55 | schedule it's actually really great thing to have access to an app like this I suppose |
| 00:16:00 | and there seems to be nothing on as I would love to have that's what i'm wondering is how they get |
| 00:16:05 | around you know the the air. Mind because like a lot of airlines didn't want to give this |
| 00:16:10 | day and that was a lot of these ads are running up into trouble because they weren't really saying that they didn't |
| 00:16:15 | Want You Know that's how they make their money by charging people more of the time of day that they |
| 00:16:54 | guesses that they're making but I mean Google is Big data company has access |
| 00:16:59 | to a lot of data points will all over You Know so companies You Know You mention their competitors |
| 00:17:04 | I mean who has more of this type of information are you know the computing behind the |
| 00:17:19 | is rebranding its rumored car business but it may be too late for them to catch up |
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| 00:18:46 | since twenty fourteen that Germann says the New Vision no longer involved Apple building its |
| 00:18:51 | own heart but rather a self driving car platforms in a road. Shows Tim |
| 00:18:56 | Stevens has his own thoughts on the topic and joins US today Welcome Tim. |
| 00:19:01 | Our Kids so everything we know about project Titan is rumors at this point |
| 00:19:16 | top of speculation but as mission is kosher marker which isn't about his great source and You can get so |
| 00:19:20 | so Yeah so it's. Well You know we wrote some of this we're just creating but what does Your thoughts on |
| 00:19:25 | the self driving car platform from app call based on these rumors |
| 00:19:25 | the self driving car platform from app call based on these rumors |
| 00:19:30 | tries to project was reportedly Apple wanted to build their own car and they |
| 00:19:35 | wanted to be a fully autonomous car but according to these reports and ultimately |
| 00:19:40 | determine that it's a building or car. Part of it I thought it was going to be suppressed prized so According to |
| 00:19:45 | this latest report appearing on to develop an autonomous car solution they could use |
| 00:19:45 | this latest report appearing on to develop an autonomous car solution they could use |
| 00:19:50 | potentially their own corn the future but more likely be able to go to other manufacturers and sell to |
| 00:19:54 | them so they basically accelerate on their own autonomous |
| 00:19:59 | Ford and save Yours are Thomas Carper. For pay US money you can plug in Your car and you'll be good to |
| 00:20:04 | go the problem This is all those manufacturers are already spending millions and millions if |
| 00:20:04 | go the problem This is all those manufacturers are already spending millions and millions if |
| 00:20:09 | not billions of dollars in developing their own autonomous solution so i'm a little bit |
| 00:20:13 | skeptical that any of them are really going to want to go and piggyback with Apple here when they've all been |
| 00:20:33 | editorial that I wrote today basically is what an example was more company that doesn't have hundreds of |
| 00:20:38 | millions or billions of dollars to invest in this kind of research is so might need a little helping hand |
| 00:20:43 | but even for those companies are already companies like Dell find more. Poli that are developing their |
| 00:20:43 | but even for those companies are already companies like Dell find more. Poli that are developing their |
| 00:20:48 | own independent autonomous solutions they could work with and partner and complex who |
| 00:20:53 | are already have partnerships with companies like Delphi again it's a little bit difficult for me to |
| 00:20:57 | imagine Apple really kind of nosing into this space and funnel a success unless they can compose |
| 00:21:02 | something that's truly Revolutionary so along the way you know they've been all the. Is the bread |
| 00:21:22 | former asked Martin chief engineer Chris pour It was was broad and was hired by. |
| 00:21:27 | Apple to work on I mean one could only imagine working on this project and Insanely shape or |
| 00:21:31 | form I mean if it's a pivot if it is such a was such a |
| 00:21:36 | thing as what we're seeing here is a pit I mean does without affect kind of the |
| 00:21:41 | working relationship with someone in that stature I mean coming coming in possibly to work on |
| 00:21:51 | which can work in software it's cool |
| 00:21:57 | all of those people that they pose shame Your neighbor enticingly offers to come to work in Cupertino |
| 00:22:02 | You know that puts him in a very uncomfortable situation because they were brought on board to build one thing and You know if |
| 00:22:06 | you are for example a vehicle dynamics and you're somebody who works on suspension |
| 00:22:11 | if you're building a Carny more than that person really is needed anymore so that's what we're hearing. About a lot of |
| 00:22:16 | layoffs and ultimately a lot of people just up and quitting because their jobs really |
| 00:22:21 | are needed You know I i've definitely heard from people in the industry who would never going to record who |
| 00:22:31 | develop an actual car and some of them went for something didn't but ultimately |
| 00:22:35 | that. It now are in a really uncomfortable situation but you know the Good News is there's a lot |
| 00:22:40 | of automotive are indeed going on in the Silicon Valley area so Nice |
| 00:23:00 | they find themselves not need them at all do you have any guesses tell why it's not working out |
| 00:23:05 | like what went wrong there. I'm guessing there are as always a |
| 00:23:10 | variety of factors that are kind of coming together but ultimately You Know building cars a really difficult |
| 00:23:14 | thing and that's one the reasons I was very skeptical about this to begin with because it just seems like a Crazy thing for |
| 00:23:19 | Apple want to get into You Know it's a hard thing to do safety regulations are incredibly |
| 00:23:24 | complex especially if you're looking at the College went to the school bully. And the profit margins on |
| 00:23:24 | complex especially if you're looking at the College went to the school bully. And the profit margins on |
| 00:23:29 | these things are really Slim You know if you're making ten percent on a car you're doing really good and that's |
| 00:23:34 | that's really not the kind of numbers and apple's looking for so it really seemed to make sense to |
| 00:23:58 | together this is the the next best pass that they think they can go down and finally make |
| 00:24:03 | some money off of this so early retirement having just hired an a I X. |
| 00:24:08 | Parents and some of the trials that they've had within Ai is that you know there's such a secretive |
| 00:24:13 | company and they don't share and so I do think that's part of the |
| 00:24:13 | company and they don't share and so I do think that's part of the |
| 00:24:18 | problem here like to see a lot of sharing among the Big companies when it comes to |
| 00:24:22 | autonomous driving technology there actually isn't Unfortunately a limited amount of |
| 00:24:27 | sharing going on there. Oro of very few Places in the world where companies are testing |
| 00:24:27 | sharing going on there. Oro of very few Places in the world where companies are testing |
| 00:24:32 | their autonomous cars together there's a place called him city in Michigan with shoes on the University Michigan |
| 00:24:37 | campus where many factors can come together and test the cars together but even so very rarely |
| 00:24:56 | chest income is like for that are relatively open with the number of cars |
| 00:25:01 | they haven't this or technologies on the cars will really get frequent updates for them how that testing is |
| 00:25:06 | going so you know certainly apple's been very. Very close door without the working and i've been |
| 00:25:11 | confirming that this tape exist. Italy this aught proprietor testing going on as these |
| 00:25:16 | manufacturers know the kind of why do it themselves they want autonomy to be kind of a stand |
| 00:25:20 | alone feature or standup future for them that they can use to market their cars being better and safer |
| 00:25:25 | and more advanced than others and for that reason that we want to work together they want to do on the road and they want to come up with a better |
| 00:25:30 | solution than anybody else and everybody's convinced that they can do this. So obviously not it wasn't able to do |
| 00:25:30 | solution than anybody else and everybody's convinced that they can do this. So obviously not it wasn't able to do |
| 00:25:35 | that but there is a lot of enforcement project technologies are being developed of all this |
| 00:25:40 | season is that there's an easier way forward possibly for them and he talked a little bit about |
| 00:25:45 | that idea I think ultimately Apple really should just refocus and in |
| 00:25:50 | redesign the interior of cars You Know we've seen some really cool stuff coming. Of car plate Android |
| 00:25:55 | auto and it's a good first step but Auto in Tears or a lot more complicated than |
| 00:26:00 | they need to be a lot more again proprietor than they need to be and when the iPhone came out It |
| 00:26:05 | was really what the phone could do but it was how you could do it at Apple could bring that kind of fresh |
| 00:26:14 | Q's in the all the other Horrible touch interfaces no Heaven cars they |
| 00:26:19 | replace them with something that's truly intuitive and truly a pleasure to use that I think would be something |
| 00:26:23 | that auto manufacturers would actually be really eager to partner up with Apple on versus this kind of |
| 00:26:23 | that auto manufacturers would actually be really eager to partner up with Apple on versus this kind of |
| 00:26:28 | technology that all these manufacturers are you doing on a rowing already convinced that they're doing better than anybody else |
| 00:26:33 | so I think they would bring. In the actual experience of the dashboard and really bring together everything from |
| 00:26:33 | so I think they would bring. In the actual experience of the dashboard and really bring together everything from |
| 00:26:38 | immediate to Your climate controlled setting your current UAW cruise control everything else |
| 00:26:43 | that I think could be something special so that Apple can really dominate on versus this really really |
| 00:27:08 | said twenty Slash triangulation thanks so much for joining US and Thank You both for him. |
| 00:27:14 | I had rarely writes about one of her shows last week says Kurt and Roberta or |
| 00:27:19 | excellent gases Wells being informed right they both have that Wonderful dry sense of humor that you had |
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| 00:30:50 | access joining US to discuss this is Denise Howell from this week in La has gone it's |
| 00:30:55 | been great I Chase and I get to see you to start I guess. By telling US a |
| 00:31:00 | little bit about what Forbes found in this Court filing from earlier May |
| 00:31:10 | support of the issue and said the warrant that they had asked for and are |
| 00:31:15 | federal criminal procedure. So there's a |
| 00:31:20 | lot of backstory here that I find is really really fascinating. |
| 00:31:25 | First and foremost being that Forbes is going through the Federal dockets |
| 00:31:29 | in Lancaster California or the federal court that governs Lancaster |
| 00:31:34 | California to add just suggest things like this out and even though |
| 00:31:34 | California to add just suggest things like this out and even though |
| 00:31:39 | this was way back in May the fact that they found it at all is it's sort of a miracle. |
| 00:31:44 | Is to tells you how important Bad journalism |
| 00:32:00 | So basically what that what's the issue here is this |
| 00:32:04 | idea that a warrant was issued to come in and essentially |
| 00:32:09 | collects the fingerprints of everyone in order to gain access to all of these phones |
| 00:32:09 | collects the fingerprints of everyone in order to gain access to all of these phones |
| 00:32:14 | do justify the war in itself You Know It maybe You knew that it was |
| 00:32:19 | a deserted city. Miller AM and what the government asked for here at Gate |
| 00:32:23 | they had probable cause for a search warrant or are they argued they had probable |
| 00:32:28 | cause they were granted their War and part of their request here though |
| 00:33:02 | might be locked if you don't have the fingerprint. And so they they |
| 00:33:07 | actually got a court to sign off on this and issue a warrant |
| 00:33:12 | that would have required everyone in these promises to give a |
| 00:33:17 | fingerprint to unlock whatever devices were so seated with them. |
| 00:33:33 | hard to know that are not since we live in this |
| 00:33:37 | adversarial |
| 00:33:42 | not know whether a court would find this constitutional or not a violation of the fourth Amendment |
| 00:33:47 | or not I and might just going to court and sent up a |
| 00:33:52 | balloon in this. See if it flew that this one flu so do we |
| 00:34:16 | otherwise under seal and not available for public consumption and |
| 00:34:20 | i'm so all we know is that a warrant was issued and this the various legal our |
| 00:34:25 | arguments were submitted in support of the warrant and that's what forms reported on was Sad |
| 00:34:35 | Fourth Amendment and fifth Amendment were not being violated here by. |
| 00:34:40 | Asking for fingerprints from the people now a lot of legal advocates think the fourth |
| 00:34:45 | Amendment and fifth Amendment we're certainly in play and it really |
| 00:34:50 | points out the fact that you really don't know what you're going to get its |
| 00:34:55 | kind of like the Forrest Gump problem You Do You get a prosecutor who |
| 00:34:59 | decides to. Send up a travel agency with what they get from a judge. |
| 00:35:05 | You need folks either like the efsf or you need |
| 00:35:10 | Sad the people on the receiving end of these warrants to come in and |
| 00:35:10 | Sad the people on the receiving end of these warrants to come in and |
| 00:35:15 | say Hey we're going to challenge this legally because we think it's a rotten unconstitutional and |
| 00:35:19 | and Unfortunately You know I mean this was somebody's residents all we |
| 00:35:29 | happened we shouldn't serve with the War and we were under investigation unfairly |
| 00:35:34 | we don't know any of the facts. To check that story or the government's |
| 00:35:39 | bad but that's what they say and better Unfortunately doesn't seem like they had illegal Wherewithal or |
| 00:35:44 | or the know how to reach out to people who might have challenged that warrant and push |
| 00:35:49 | back on what the government asked for and got hear those stories like this kind of. |
| 00:35:55 | I always kind of hymns comes around to explaining at least in technology discussions |
| 00:36:00 | around what's actually happening here the difference between being compelled to unlock a device |
| 00:36:05 | with a pin versus being compelled to unlock a device with bare metrics |
| 00:36:10 | data like of like a fingerprint can you explain kind of the legal ramifications of |
| 00:36:15 | why there are. Our differences their gas and out there for You met biometric data |
| 00:36:15 | why there are. Our differences their gas and out there for You met biometric data |
| 00:36:20 | by a charity that said. And Noah |
| 00:36:25 | Yeah I guess there's a difference and end that you might if you do a little googling |
| 00:36:30 | out you might find stories telling you i'm definitely don't lock your phone or don't rely |
| 00:36:35 | on locking your phone with a fingerprint because that's much more subject to |
| 00:36:40 | being have forced to turn over someone. Goes to |
| 00:36:44 | court and say Yes with the caviar at the caviar his |
| 00:36:49 | courts are still getting their arms around all this and we are we have a split |
| 00:36:54 | from state courts federal courts grappling with what you |
| 00:37:09 | say that you should definitely secure if you're concerned about keeping |
| 00:37:13 | the information on a device whether it's a computer or |
| 00:37:18 | phone or anything else that you can unlock one of two ways |
| 00:37:23 | biometrics Lee or with a code. A code is probably |
| 00:37:28 | more likely to give you a little bit more run away. In a legal investigation |
| 00:37:33 | because something that relates to Your body is not something the know end courts |
| 00:37:38 | make that distinction again it's not universal there's not a whole lot of clarity on |
| 00:37:43 | this that you're more likely to have to turn over something like a blood sample or a |
| 00:37:48 | fingerprint then you are something that you know. Under the fifth Amendment which is |
| 00:38:02 | that they talked to the in fact he said You know not only should they fed that |
| 00:38:07 | had a warrant that snow says they could come in but says exactly what they're looking for. Or are the |
| 00:38:12 | one that says they can look on people's phones but the warrant should say what they're |
| 00:38:12 | one that says they can look on people's phones but the warrant should say what they're |
| 00:38:17 | looking for and then there should be a way just to look at that part of the |
| 00:38:22 | phone I mean is that something that you've seen of talked about about how |
| 00:38:37 | involved in this case are the people who were facing the warrant had |
| 00:38:41 | had the ability to bring a lawyer maybe it's not yet who could who could |
| 00:38:46 | fight the warrant and contest is over Prague thats what they would argue they would've said. |
| 00:38:46 | fight the warrant and contest is over Prague thats what they would argue they would've said. |
| 00:38:51 | That look You need to limit this down we don't know when you're on a fishing expedition we don't know what you're looking for You and |
| 00:38:56 | said what you're looking for you're just saying that you think it might be there |
| 00:39:21 | contacts their photographs whatever i'm that that might be relevant |
| 00:39:26 | to an investigation or might be completely off limits and benefits. |
| 00:39:31 | Getting into material that is not actually needed for their investigation |
| 00:39:37 | as someone could make the argument that Yes that it should be walled off and not |
| 00:39:41 | examined. Well Denise Howell AMO is a pleasure to be on the show thanks for coming on to |
| 00:39:46 | tell everyone about the story and obviously are all over the network is well you've got |
| 00:39:46 | tell everyone about the story and obviously are all over the network is well you've got |
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| 00:00:31 | so easy as. |
| 00:00:42 | Extra just turn. I always wanted to be a mother |
| 00:00:47 | Fi think |
| 00:00:57 | but anyways yeah I like the other women in my family |
| 00:01:01 | problem getting pregnant right and then I had an easy pregnancy that he would be a |
| 00:01:06 | wonderful |
| 00:01:11 | healthy baby |
| 00:01:16 | some lucky to help fill some smooth |
| 00:01:16 | some lucky to help fill some smooth |
| 00:01:21 | on according to plan and Milan a minivan. |
| 00:01:26 | It'S going to be different from my daughter. She hasn't got a one |
| 00:01:32 | or any of the other parts needed to be a biological mother. And the hormones |
| 00:01:37 | she will likely take. Will render her infertile as a man. |
| 00:01:44 | When I realized this a layer of sadness moved into my life |
| 00:01:44 | When I realized this a layer of sadness moved into my life |
| 00:01:49 | and hung around like a dark far. I'D like to be |
| 00:01:54 | able to say the sadness was all or even primarily |
| 00:02:00 | on my daughters pout. But I can't. I grieve |
| 00:02:05 | for myself. It was official. I |
| 00:02:09 | wasn't going to be a grandmother. At least not a |
| 00:02:14 | biological one. He is. |
| 00:02:29 | like this what do the movie when I watch my mother with her |
| 00:02:34 | grandchildren |
| 00:02:38 | again. Yeah I know she loves her three children to this is one of |
| 00:02:48 | Dr Letitia I think it's calm plants |
| 00:02:53 | face of like a fly story I want to tell all my friends about it. |
| 00:03:01 | I was very close to my own grandmother least thirty feet tall |
| 00:03:05 | she doted on me and the other five grandkids this is just a wonderful |
| 00:03:10 | soul. Just how well and she delighted in nine great grandchildren |
| 00:03:31 | Do you think she found out I was pregnant and she told me |
| 00:03:36 | she'd be sure to stick around a little while longer pull in so she |
| 00:03:41 | could meet my child before she left us we were always well |
| 00:04:28 | |
| 00:04:33 | |
| 00:04:38 | in. It was for her this time that for me |
| 00:04:48 | start to get into our sadness for the day she realized how this are |
| 00:04:53 | actually worked and it wasn't going to work in her case or I |
| 00:04:58 | am the first hour. And why. I knew I needed to tell |
| 00:05:13 | too. Hoisting being pregnant it always |
| 00:05:17 | starts Sunday it would just be amazing to carry a child and I mean I |
| 00:05:22 | met Molly at our support group and wanted to experience that's so bad her daughter is |
| 00:05:37 | we couldn't have children. I still go back and mourn that I still |
| 00:05:42 | have dreams about being pregnant or finding out and pregnant who wake up and you know our a |
| 00:05:46 | kind of wish that it happened and then you sad and I'm sad |
| 00:05:46 | kind of wish that it happened and then you sad and I'm sad |
| 00:05:51 | mali's a cellular biologist and fascinated with life in |
| 00:05:56 | general and and and science and your own experience. With infertility it's led her |
| 00:06:01 | to start studying the science of reproduction years she was even more motivated seeded |
| 00:06:27 | And dwelling on the details just seemed pointless and depressing |
| 00:06:32 | like a reporter questioning the losing teams coach about why his guys |
| 00:06:36 | lost. Having answers wouldn't change the |
| 00:06:45 | understanding is that he very activates fertility right Molly confirmed what |
| 00:06:50 | I already knew. Which was that in order to have a shot at reproducing |
| 00:06:56 | my child would have to forgo taking estrogen. Through male |
| 00:06:56 | my child would have to forgo taking estrogen. Through male |
| 00:07:00 | puberty your facial hair would start to grow allowing testosterone to do |
| 00:07:05 | is powerful and irreversible work on her body your voice a job that you get a |
| 00:07:10 | different kind of musculature than girls to become apparent my daughter would |
| 00:07:10 | different kind of musculature than girls to become apparent my daughter would |
| 00:07:15 | first need to become a man and least physically there would be allowed. The |
| 00:07:20 | differences that would be very masculine never forget the conversation I had with my |
| 00:07:25 | child when she was just four years old. Then she |
| 00:07:29 | realized she might grow a beard I could add. She was |
| 00:07:34 | horrified. To reassure her I told her there |
| 00:07:53 | years since my daughter learned about them. Person that could stop her from |
| 00:07:58 | growing a beard like dad. Ever since then every |
| 00:08:03 | few months she asks me about this medicine. So really |
| 00:08:08 | were. Is it time to start taking it in but what's |
| 00:08:13 | interesting is then Molly started saying these other thing have a friend who's |
| 00:08:18 | studies fertility in women an amazing change actually she studies and cows |
| 00:08:23 | apparently had given signs of change is she said well you need to |
| 00:08:28 | look at what. What they're doing now is a pediatric cancer patient it |
| 00:08:33 | turns out that young kids with cancer face the same issue is trans kids |
| 00:08:38 | medical interventions like chemotherapy can damage their ovaries and |
| 00:08:43 | testes. Before they've had a chance to go through puberty so now there's a |
| 00:08:48 | lunch people thinking OK how can we preserve their fertility I sat there with my mouth |
| 00:09:17 | Girl. Who. |
| 00:09:25 | Molly told me that researchers were working on a way to carry out the hearing |
| 00:09:29 | process |
| 00:09:54 | that they lived in and they are in the male body but doing in the lab and if everything worked |
| 00:10:00 | you'd end up with a viable sperm. I'M smart and for listening in the lab from one |
| 00:10:04 | moment to the next the impossible and produce children had become |
| 00:10:09 | possible move but that was just the beginning in Mali went on to |
| 00:10:14 | tell me about more signs that sounded a lot like magic basically ideas taken |
| 00:10:19 | a minister were to start making |
| 00:10:23 | something that could've been on that was supposed to become a mouse take any meat and two other |
| 00:10:29 | men mostly talked about stem cells found in our bone marrow |
| 00:10:34 | exciting the cells are to medical researchers because they have the capacity |
| 00:10:39 | into becoming other types of cells |
| 00:10:44 | even reproductive cells they cool but if we can take as an adult |
| 00:10:44 | even reproductive cells they cool but if we can take as an adult |
| 00:10:49 | decided hey I really want to be a period of just takes some bone marrow an old expelled |
| 00:10:53 | |
| 00:10:57 | transplants literally taking the annual risk and now |
| 00:11:13 | tree of twenty years us to. We'Re killing kids hopefully twenty years so the like twenty nine |
| 00:11:18 | maybe they'll be around you know the normal |
| 00:11:23 | is sort of creepy. It. |
| 00:11:55 | That any of these scenarios will come to pass for my daughter but that's OK. |
| 00:12:01 | This isn't about having a guaranteed path to fertility for my child. |
| 00:12:06 | No woman gets a guarantee even the girls born with ovaries. |
| 00:12:13 | What I'm looking for is a change there's something about having |
| 00:12:18 | even a kernel of hope yeah the chance on the other kids |
| 00:12:22 | and their parents. Assume they're getting so I don't have to tell her |
| 00:12:32 | chance that the parents of cancer patients are seeking know it's more like |
| 00:12:37 | OK we can do some things and it might happen maybe |
| 00:12:42 | my child can have this. Just maybe if |
| 00:12:47 | it has all the laces |
| 00:13:29 | than I once thought she had her version of the birds and bees |
| 00:13:34 | is still going to be a lot more complicated than mice. |
| 00:13:40 | So I kept on drinking my feet on talking to her about it. |
| 00:14:02 | It was stuff like what I want to talk to our living room and |
| 00:14:07 | enormous |
| 00:14:12 | day without this I didn't know even thinking about what can I |
| 00:14:12 | day without this I didn't know even thinking about what can I |
| 00:14:17 | make just a bit. I don't think it's |
| 00:14:22 | funny if you want to pick another first for |
| 00:14:22 | funny if you want to pick another first for |
| 00:14:27 | have a girl to of the woman when you grow up then you've had |
| 00:14:32 | your sperm or. Probably. When I |
| 00:14:37 | get angry at the world. It'S for forcing me to have conversations like |
| 00:14:41 | this with my daughter. That. At |
| 00:14:46 | least now I could give her a little scrap of hope the things scientists are |
| 00:14:51 | working on some new ways to make the whites still not much. |
| 00:15:06 | that they figure out some ways the bill once again. I reach the limits of what my |
| 00:15:11 | love for my child can do. And I can give her is a truce |
| 00:15:16 | were reading what hostilities |
| 00:15:22 | I can tell you this when he want to have kids. You will. |
| 00:15:29 | Adoption is a wonderful way to become a pair. It'S |
| 00:15:34 | a lot different to add up to. I would be very happy |
| 00:15:39 | if you are the author of hubris that moment whatever kind of way became a |
| 00:15:44 | mom I'd be happy for you and I would love your baby or UK. |
| 00:15:49 | So much which I'd rather run like Graham would you |
| 00:16:48 | The AV. The. I |
| 00:16:53 | like actually in failing in short of age because a |
| 00:16:58 | name for every night to |
| 00:17:01 | God. The us today. |
| 00:17:06 | This episode of how to be a girl was produced in collaboration with KUOW W |
| 00:17:11 | in Seattle. I Marlo Mack |
| 00:17:16 | production team includes Jim Gates and Whitney in Leicester. |
| 00:17:22 | Thank you so much to Mali |
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| 00:18:07 | wonderful neighbors podcast check it out I remember going to |
| 00:18:07 | wonderful neighbors podcast check it out I remember going to |
| 00:18:12 | church one day. A large moose I want to play a voice |
| 00:18:17 | but I was a conviction in more hot enough out a rose my man the guy wanted |
| 00:18:22 | me to put the drugs that I was still in on the altar. |

| 00:00:23 | phrase can I help you can be told that in different ways we can |
| 00:00:28 | be. Can I help you. Which is a true honest way of doing that or if you're in a |
| 00:00:33 | place where maybe you shouldn't be or perceive you shouldn't be you might get the |
| 00:00:38 | can I help you which is anything but wanting to help. |
| 00:00:44 | So I was doing the shooting last night at Ford. It can mean anything. Yeah it could. Right right right. |
| 00:00:49 | This actually Rob Schneider used to have a bit before he became very successful or sort |
| 00:00:55 | of the beginning with success he was on the Letterman show and did this whole routine about the different ways you |
| 00:00:55 | of the beginning with success he was on the Letterman show and did this whole routine about the different ways you |
| 00:01:00 | can say dude in all the different meanings behind dude. It's a very funny bit. |
| 00:01:06 | But I had the dick hot dichotomy of help on our shoot. So we did a shoot |
| 00:01:11 | at a hotel in Los Angeles of which we had |
| 00:01:17 | my our client had paid for her room and so the all the stuff and we were in a lobby or butting in |
| 00:01:22 | in an area that literally no human was walking through. I mean nobody zero. |
| 00:01:22 | in an area that literally no human was walking through. I mean nobody zero. |
| 00:01:28 | And they actually moved a giant like overstuffed chair out of our way so we could you know operator or she were doing |
| 00:01:34 | interviews and all my shooter had |
| 00:01:34 | interviews and all my shooter had |
| 00:01:39 | was a tripod in in an area of which there was also |
| 00:01:44 | an area eight feet wide for people to walk by by the tripod so |
| 00:01:50 | two different people from the hotel come up to us and |
| 00:01:55 | they want to put the tripod down because they think it's a fire hazard. I |
| 00:02:01 | go to what to who. Like it was when we have insurance issues and all the stuff and like there |
| 00:02:01 | go to what to who. Like it was when we have insurance issues and all the stuff and like there |
| 00:02:06 | is no one walking here no one not a human. Now the complete |
| 00:02:12 | flip side of it and we're like What is wrong with people that that they have to find a problem |
| 00:02:17 | that is finding a problem that is not a problem. So we were just kind of the thought of like someone's |
| 00:02:23 | getting upset about the same two issues to comment about it. Second we |
| 00:02:28 | were shooting construction sites in Los Angeles and usually when we shoot construction sites we we like kind |
| 00:02:33 | of find the opening construction started shooting inside or we're kind of cross the street and we would maybe be |
| 00:02:38 | in a parking lot and shoot down but we never actually go on the construction side. Well |
| 00:02:44 | my shooter was there shooting a construction site. The security guy was so |
| 00:02:49 | forthcoming if they let me get your hard hat and a vest How do you sign a release form and then |
| 00:02:54 | took him around the entire construction site so we could shoot we had no set up for this |
| 00:02:54 | took him around the entire construction site so we could shoot we had no set up for this |
| 00:02:59 | or anything we just kind of appeared he was unbelievably helpful so I just |
| 00:03:06 | when you see someone who needs help go out and really help them but don't be a hindrance as Mike's |
| 00:03:11 | story is that I have here which I was just so amazed at like how helpful that guy was |
| 00:03:11 | story is that I have here which I was just so amazed at like how helpful that guy was |
| 00:03:16 | and how a pain in the butt that hotel was unnecessarily |
| 00:03:22 | so. Yet seems like the guy should be flipped like the guy who's like at a construction |
| 00:03:27 | site who's looking after your health to a place he could probably die. He's on the more likely |
| 00:03:32 | to be a pain because he didn't you know I don't have let me tell you. And then pray tell shit like |
| 00:03:38 | was it a nice hotel I should be doing are you confident or to like make your life better yet. |
| 00:03:43 | Well not only that it's not like we just randomly showed up the working poor was had |
| 00:03:43 | Well not only that it's not like we just randomly showed up the working poor was had |
| 00:03:48 | paid an enormous amount of money to be a vote |
| 00:03:54 | and really pay this concert and cite anything you know like we're just happy to be there so you know normally |
| 00:03:54 | and really pay this concert and cite anything you know like we're just happy to be there so you know normally |
| 00:04:00 | construction sites. Either they just completely ignore you or they tell you to go away but |
| 00:04:06 | the Go away has been rare we've only had that happen a couple of times nothing are not uncommon. |
| 00:04:11 | You know we have our first story is the story of France but let's go Straight to Mark Mehran first and then that's |
| 00:04:11 | You know we have our first story is the story of France but let's go Straight to Mark Mehran first and then that's |
| 00:04:17 | OK We can talk Mark Mehran So you did listen to the interview I did I loved it I thought it was a fantastic |
| 00:04:22 | interview. I think issues like the power of the long form |
| 00:04:39 | sure you've watch it get half hour interview with him and go rile you. But that's just so |
| 00:04:44 | tense. Yes You know it's just not a proper station know it |
| 00:04:49 | and I felt the two things that I learned from that interview was one how |
| 00:05:11 | just how proud he is of his two daughters and understandably and obviously so |
| 00:05:16 | but it was just a great interview and I thought Mark Murnaghan so very very well in |
| 00:05:21 | the whole thing now did you also listen to the flow of pod cast where they talked about the whole experience |
| 00:05:21 | the whole thing now did you also listen to the flow of pod cast where they talked about the whole experience |
| 00:05:27 | I have to do that that's exciting. I didn't even know there was one but to your point about just |
| 00:05:32 | you know point out pieces about it from this interview in like kind of giving insights into his life I mean just his |
| 00:05:32 | you know point out pieces about it from this interview in like kind of giving insights into his life I mean just his |
| 00:05:39 | exchanges with his daughters who are growing up and like you know how it's been a bit of a stressful for them |
| 00:05:44 | because they get tired of the six you know six Secret Service detail when they go over to friends for sleep overs and |
| 00:05:49 | he's like he's like he tells his daughters and if you think I'm driving going to pick you up over |
| 00:05:54 | your friends after like an eight out you're crazy honey I just |
| 00:05:59 | kind of that. Inside it is why I though I doubt very specific |
| 00:05:59 | kind of that. Inside it is why I though I doubt very specific |
| 00:06:05 | of the wife and the developer I do I care about it being a teenager growing up in that environment trying to |
| 00:06:10 | grow up as a normal teenager it's not easy you know a little bizarre |
| 00:06:15 | to say the least. But no I I think but I mean can you remember I don't |
| 00:06:15 | to say the least. But no I I think but I mean can you remember I don't |
| 00:06:21 | remember a time where a president of a sitting president had a conversation with another |
| 00:06:26 | person or just seems like to do is get it in there and it came off just like that to do just |
| 00:06:31 | that men are talking about. They could've been having a beer. You don't get that like everything I mean just |
| 00:06:36 | remember how in this isn't a comment on Bush but he seems so programmed |
| 00:06:41 | especially through the end of his nose and I mean every every and every word was told managers so measured and |
| 00:06:41 | especially through the end of his nose and I mean every every and every word was told managers so measured and |
| 00:06:46 | you know that he was speaking to his politics have to like he priced out there's a lot of pressure on him to make sure every |
| 00:06:52 | word was said the exactly the right way for fear of it you know kind of inaccurate in |
| 00:07:02 | this and barn ish interview with Marc Mero and with Marc Mero trademark style |
| 00:07:07 | it was just it was a great lesson. I so highly wrote. Whether you listen to Marc Mero not |
| 00:07:13 | just listen to this one interview with the president I believe you can just go to the. There's also a Web site |
| 00:07:18 | that the sponsor Squarespace had set up. Mark meets Obama |
| 00:07:18 | that the sponsor Squarespace had set up. Mark meets Obama |
| 00:07:23 | dot com And as it was a total years the you the photos. |
| 00:07:28 | So you don't even have to subscribe you can just go to that site and listen to the interview it's just it's just over an hour the whole thing but |
| 00:07:45 | Marin through the website you know I do year ago so |
| 00:07:51 | this started a year ago this whole process and so they just talk about the whole process the whole process. |
| 00:07:56 | Secret Service showing up and tending the house and on and all the different random things that went. No we |
| 00:08:06 | ten minutes I don't know if you so did you see the news they came out after the interview. |
| 00:08:12 | So I think a lot about they just focused a lot actually. I wondered as well as on |
| 00:08:18 | the fact of these and then word in every criticism decontextualized the |
| 00:08:44 | and both of them their only reaction they didn't hear it was oh no but I read that he said |
| 00:08:50 | yeah and so will they all go in there. Yeah that's a take that's a |
| 00:08:55 | whirl of them I know and I just when I heard there was a call by God That's not the story |
| 00:09:00 | but that's the story that gets out there it's the story that you know a certain |
| 00:09:06 | segment the media just want you to take away. That's all you totally. Well here's the |
| 00:09:43 | Johnson saying the word on television and that would desensitize went from thinking |
| 00:09:48 | well maybe not that would do the opposite but but the irony that he referenced the president to desensitize |
| 00:09:53 | a word now today we have a president saying the word which now it it desensitizing it just and |
| 00:09:59 | I love everyone. As advice for him and criticism for me about how should I say this order white |
| 00:10:05 | like everyone is so critical |
| 00:10:11 | or way people when I know it's Tuesday has been crazy but don't know if |
| 00:10:17 | it's so annoying. All right so let's move on. |
| 00:10:33 | so entertaining so excited and he's God's gift to comedians |
| 00:10:39 | in just watching just getting reaction to him is just kind of putting a fine |
| 00:10:44 | point on how much I'm going to miss John store just seeing his reaction to this thing. We're |
| 00:10:44 | point on how much I'm going to miss John store just seeing his reaction to this thing. We're |
| 00:10:49 | recording this on a Saturday will have this dropping like next middle next week who knows |
| 00:10:54 | what would trump will do Pertwee felt that bad like physically after his Because |
| 00:11:05 | of Mexico. Like I |
| 00:11:10 | said So you know you don't do that as the president I read somewhere as a headline as a drive by headline for me. |
| 00:11:16 | Someone said he's second in the polls or some point is that going to the polls that can't be possible that |
| 00:11:21 | well because he has the only well known name Bush and the nobody knows any of the other names |
| 00:11:26 | but it is creating this out of there and now he won't |
| 00:11:31 | let a staff member of Univision on one of his property is |
| 00:11:38 | using some of just like oh by God he's so he's so crazy and |
| 00:11:38 | using some of just like oh by God he's so he's so crazy and |
| 00:11:44 | Graeme Swann to be president if I didn't I was if I was a worry for the country I'd want to be president of entertainment value. |
| 00:11:50 | Well I don't think it's a years ago when I was doing thin if I had a job similar to about |
| 00:11:55 | Ross Perot and I would you know like commit to Donald Trump. I said you know we should just all |
| 00:12:09 | so funny listening to trump and then also going back to the mark Barron interview with Obama. Those |
| 00:12:14 | two people could not be on on travellin in top form or three. Contrast |
| 00:12:20 | was just amazing and I didn't intervene. Yeah and you know Trump is part |
| 00:12:25 | of I think what's driving Travers I think Obama personally dissed in that the president the president's |
| 00:12:31 | Preston or like four or five years ago he actually insult them like Trump was |
| 00:12:36 | an audience and I think that's got to be driving them. I mean you know what like. Well |
| 00:12:41 | he's you know he's so public we talk to our home page but this week for Obama |
| 00:12:47 | has been off the charts picked up your spectacular. He got I mean |
| 00:12:52 | again we're going to toss it to set and encourage anyone who has a listen to me for |
| 00:12:57 | though you have out there that there are snipers are listening to and it's well worth it. So it's |
| 00:13:03 | just just huge huge huge for the president. All right. We've waited thirty minutes just |
| 00:13:08 | talking about that. Let's get into it get into some facts or it will |
| 00:13:13 | get we can burn through these the French government is trying to shut down you know there were protests the |
| 00:13:13 | get we can burn through these the French government is trying to shut down you know there were protests the |
| 00:13:19 | Suppose a year ago that the French government found it illegal the service and |
| 00:13:26 | Hoover is trying to work a way around it. EADS the name of the service out there is a pop and |
| 00:13:32 | you know I actually saw a big protest of which Courtney Love was involved very high |
| 00:13:37 | violence between the the taxis and Hooper and I've |
| 00:13:43 | never thought it would degenerate into this I think that my mention of an earlier pocketed I've met one of the founders |
| 00:13:48 | of Hoover like four years ago at a bar and my reaction was Well good luck in through |
| 00:13:53 | the you know the sort of the unionization of the taxis but |
| 00:14:41 | I was going to wanted to tour the impressionist museum you know where they have all the you |
| 00:14:47 | know the the door say that or say that I was and and the whole week we can go because |
| 00:14:52 | the the janitors Union was on strike and I mean and |
| 00:14:52 | the the janitors Union was on strike and I mean and |
| 00:14:58 | you know no commentary on that I'll just like it is going to show me that in early age whether they have a strong |
| 00:15:03 | hold on a lot of parts of society over there. Yeah yeah. Well |
| 00:15:10 | let's move on. OK I want to I like I like if you have a treasure trove what is |
| 00:15:15 | the treasure truck. Someone described it as a pirate truck but with |
| 00:15:20 | treasure like a pirate ship or treasure and it's on the truck and you know |
| 00:15:26 | it's called the treasure kits from Amazon and it's on its way. I'm super excited. Kind |
| 00:15:31 | of like it's almost like ice contract for adults to me and one of the cool things villainously |
| 00:15:36 | I don't think you get to see the crazy Amazon ideas first and it's literally just a truck that |
| 00:15:41 | drives around Seattle it's like insane deals in the first one is a and |
| 00:15:47 | I'm pretty excited about this. My wife for the wanting us a paddle paddle board for a while |
| 00:15:53 | and their first deal is a stand up inflatable paddle board set for ninety nine dollars retail price for close |
| 00:15:58 | to five hundred dollars. But it's so all school in a |
| 00:16:03 | way. So the idea is that it's kind of like a movable woot if you will. Yeah |
| 00:16:08 | I mean you were like the bookmobile how exciting book like when |
| 00:16:08 | I mean you were like the bookmobile how exciting book like when |
| 00:16:14 | I came I must say that I like the ice cream truck a lot. Yeah and I had like my kids like |
| 00:16:20 | it been years they remembered I ski trip I'm a neighbor of Mike and I like that like about a week ago that I had heading |
| 00:16:25 | the core of my son and I heard that I should track like this Kristie kind of like vanity like a kidnapper |
| 00:16:31 | van was like the stickers on site. I didn't care I |
| 00:16:41 | see a little a little kid could pop his head out of the door make the dad was driving and the kid is like now |
| 00:16:47 | how do you figure that was the dad in the kid or not. I guess I should |
| 00:16:52 | say he seemed pretty happy to be handing us a screw you know because well because I |
| 00:16:58 | guess they should allow for the note in the ice cream bar that if I don't think that into the van |
| 00:16:58 | guess they should allow for the note in the ice cream bar that if I don't think that into the van |
| 00:17:03 | with the scribbled notes help me on an ice cream cone a rapper now. |
| 00:17:08 | But yeah so I'm just you know ideas are just going to have one item on the treasure truck that I'm way |
| 00:17:13 | below market value. Yeah and it's tied into their apps like you have to have Amazon Apple like it'll tell |
| 00:17:18 | you where to go. So it's just a really fun promotional idea |
| 00:17:24 | I think is a great idea. Yeah. Boy they're going to great crowds and exactly |
| 00:17:29 | the locks in the videos are you know it's really fun silly promotional |
| 00:17:29 | the locks in the videos are you know it's really fun silly promotional |
| 00:17:36 | idea I think is a good idea. That's cool. Treasure the treasure to a very fun idea. |
| 00:17:41 | Hate Now this this next thing the Google undo send feature which is something that |
| 00:17:41 | Hate Now this this next thing the Google undo send feature which is something that |
| 00:17:46 | I thought they had a while ago. This has been easily for eight years it's my favorite thing yet so why is this kind of a big |
| 00:17:52 | new thing I'm trying to understand how it went from so you know when you can |
| 00:17:57 | and knows the ins and outs of Google Mail G. Mail they have labs which people. Could create these experimental |
| 00:18:02 | Rogan's or features and it's kind of a when he graduates from being in Google |
| 00:18:08 | Labs thing to make an official feature. That's what's happened and so there I think |
| 00:18:08 | Labs thing to make an official feature. That's what's happened and so there I think |
| 00:18:13 | that's why it was in the news but I've been using it for like at least a couple years now I don't care to |
| 00:18:18 | have it have to save my bacon just sending it something and then realizing you have someone |
| 00:18:18 | have it have to save my bacon just sending it something and then realizing you have someone |
| 00:18:23 | on there that you don't or you said the wrong thing or you forgot the attachment hidden did |
| 00:18:28 | send I don't know whether you have a delay for thirty seconds I have a mash out in a minute because I can as I just do it |
| 00:18:33 | or they may offers and I go well like if I want a man but there's also the time where |
| 00:18:38 | you're on a call like you have a schedule call like someone's waiting for your Power Point presentation |
| 00:18:44 | or whatever and I hit send I said it will be there in a minute. Like because I don't I like avoid |
| 00:18:49 | this because I don't you know that's not good. But |
| 00:18:54 | no yet I think that I understand. Here's the other thing people don't realize how many years G. Mail was in beta. |
| 00:19:00 | I mean it wasn't like beta for like seven years for me can seem ludicrous it was a beta forever and people were using |
| 00:19:06 | it as a regular product but yet it was a beta product for so long is first broke I remember getting like |
| 00:19:11 | like having asking for an invite for biggest four I got my G. Mail invite. |
| 00:19:11 | like having asking for an invite for biggest four I got my G. Mail invite. |
| 00:19:17 | But at the time you had to know someone and they'd have had to send you an invite or that. Yeah |
| 00:19:25 | all right let's move on Fred Wilson. So people who are in |
| 00:19:30 | the tech community people are especially interested in venture capital. His |
| 00:19:35 | peers blogs like the go to blog thread was and a B. Fun dot com I think he's kind |
| 00:19:40 | of like up there with Andresen centers like D.C. that people kind of all every word hang |
| 00:19:40 | of like up there with Andresen centers like D.C. that people kind of all every word hang |
| 00:19:45 | on every word and he wrote a piece I thought was pretty good about |
| 00:19:50 | how he's getting sick of seeing business plans and pitches from startups that focus only |
| 00:20:12 | the first Internet boom just focus on group growth worry about profitability later he's just getting tired of it. He says you don't |
| 00:20:17 | have to first say profitability or the very least even if you're going for growth early on another in the loop |
| 00:20:23 | losing money you should think about your path to responsibility and think that's a great point. And the English were starting to |
| 00:20:28 | think about that. Well it's interesting there's an event here in San Francisco called as a new |
| 00:20:33 | tech and the very first it's an event where startups |
| 00:20:33 | tech and the very first it's an event where startups |
| 00:20:38 | get up and present their company they have five minutes to demo it in the mirror five minutes a question from the audience and the first |
| 00:20:44 | question that is always asked of the audience and now they don't even bother they just sort of ask the question right at the beginning or |
| 00:20:49 | they go to the audience is how are you going to make money is always a question how you can make money how to make |
| 00:20:54 | money and so this is become such a sort of standard |
| 00:21:00 | thing because you know if you remember the dot com boom no one thought about making money and mean no |
| 00:21:10 | I mean was ludicrous and it was the revenue model was just sell sell the business not make |
| 00:21:15 | money ourselves or complain about that like most of these B. she's mostly |
| 00:21:20 | start to think about OK how do I get from my leader Messire day to the next round and |
| 00:21:26 | then how do we sell like that like I feel the mentality. No yeah I know I'm well aware of. |
| 00:21:32 | OK now how we pursue or how many years have you had Netflix way longer than you my friend. |
| 00:21:37 | Since the ninety's I don't want to use a disc only thing I know |
| 00:21:42 | I don't want to just going to call it was it in the ninety's when I could I mean I haven't had |
| 00:21:47 | it. I had in Arizona and I moved to Seattle back to Seattle. I think that about |
| 00:21:53 | thirteen fourteen years so I had it around two thousand two thousand and one maybe. |
| 00:21:58 | Yeah yeah that's what I mean. Most people didn't get it I think until it became like |
| 00:21:58 | Yeah yeah that's what I mean. Most people didn't get it I think until it became like |
| 00:22:04 | a streaming thing alive. No I had D.V.D.'s for many many years many many years ago I think was maybe fourteen |
| 00:22:09 | years I've had I've had it for a long time but I'm not a T.V. a user anymore I barely barely used but you know the |
| 00:22:15 | beam of the price is so low you know I never think to get rid of it but they are claiming |
| 00:22:31 | here and you correct me if I'm wrong and I kind of threw it out there to my friends on Facebook and there's sort of conflicting |
| 00:22:37 | views some believe it some don't. But according to their math and I'm just sort of isolated there's a lot of numbers here |
| 00:22:42 | but they claim that the average Netflix user is watching |
| 00:22:42 | but they claim that the average Netflix user is watching |
| 00:22:47 | two hours per day per subscriber per day so that means also if you have a household |
| 00:22:53 | the total household could be watching you know two hours per day of the thing that seems like a lot. |
| 00:22:59 | Because I definitely do not watch two hours per day like what do you think I |
| 00:22:59 | Because I definitely do not watch two hours per day like what do you think I |
| 00:23:04 | mean it's you know wealth of your day right. I haven't on Avenue like really |
| 00:23:09 | read to this and absorb it. I don't know either because I watch maybe ten hours a month |
| 00:23:14 | on Netflix at most then needs to take up my flak other people are watching |
| 00:23:14 | on Netflix at most then needs to take up my flak other people are watching |
| 00:23:20 | three to four hours a day. After this I don't watch much T.V. like most of what I watch netflix |
| 00:23:25 | and i go watch a series like an episode or a night a day so like for me |
| 00:23:31 | but this kind of I was down for like me having the T.V. on for three hours watching like a marriage game so |
| 00:23:36 | I think with that if anything's going to make this is not true it's like live sports because that's |
| 00:23:36 | I think with that if anything's going to make this is not true it's like live sports because that's |
| 00:23:42 | what I think consumes a lot of like a Liberian timer like you know Beutel on Fox for example. |
| 00:23:47 | Well I just don't watch two hours of T.V. a day and I'd like to but there is here's my frustration. |
| 00:23:53 | I on Sunday and it is just my own personal overwhelm |
| 00:23:58 | and with the Sunday I bought myself a download. Really cool new little difference actually old it's been |
| 00:24:03 | around for a while the horizon to driving. And I still want to play the darn thing so |
| 00:24:09 | it's not that I don't I don't have time for T.V. or to play the game that I've paid for either but |
| 00:24:14 | I think this week and I will quote you're busy I had to really making money my friend. I know |
| 00:24:19 | I know some of us make. All |
| 00:24:25 | right let's get into the next story with word of mouth but I didn't realize the viewing of this film. Do you have a selfie |
| 00:24:31 | stick not on itself it's a personal I actually I've only one theme one |
| 00:24:36 | up close and personal. Someone else showing me their selfie stick which sounds a little crude doesn't |
| 00:24:41 | it. Well yeah I mean my wife got one as a gift because |
| 00:24:47 | she her friend who knew she was going to New York and actually if you go on a kind of occasion or |
| 00:24:52 | two way to Hawaii or something like it actually makes sense to bring one even though they |
| 00:24:57 | decide to mock people who have felt that way and |
| 00:25:07 | news came out this week that they banned. Yeah they look for them at security I mean that's |
| 00:25:13 | where I saw Tom one thousand is a couple months ago Mike or so many of them and like it's always someone |
| 00:25:18 | the ruins of for another person. Like it means like that's the rule of everything right. Because that one person |
| 00:25:18 | the ruins of for another person. Like it means like that's the rule of everything right. Because that one person |
| 00:25:23 | wrote that and so I think well it wasn't so in here's the clarification they didn't have a problem |
| 00:25:28 | people having stealthy sticks on the grounds of Disney. The problem was the people taking them |
| 00:25:39 | So it was after one person took it over I think they got the big mountain you know railroad roller |
| 00:25:45 | coaster and they said you know either way at the peak they were taking a selfie and it's like now forget |
| 00:25:50 | it were you know you know on roller coasters like those where they take a picture of you make used to |
| 00:25:56 | actually have people there and guard against you taking pictures of the pictures like remember that. Like |
| 00:26:01 | when you were to go I don't know that but I do know that if you because they want you to pay twenty dollars for the picture. But now |
| 00:26:06 | they don't care they've given up so you can like every ride I went on I take a picture of my smartphone of the picture one |
| 00:26:12 | hundred one one of the ride I went on you can actually e-mail the photo to yourself for FREE. They have a |
| 00:26:17 | camera. I think I can remember which one that is I think it was the the the Toy Story |
| 00:26:23 | right it lets you do that. But no I do know and |
| 00:26:28 | comedian Doug Benson has a bit about this and that is they do you know truly edit those |
| 00:26:34 | photos like on Splash Mountain. If you flip the bird on one of those rides you will not see the photo |
| 00:26:39 | of yourself coming out so there's no there's no. No |
| 00:26:45 | visual profanity. Well at Disneyland or world some |
| 00:26:50 | of those are pretty great oh no but I think here's the other thing I'm glad there's no |
| 00:26:50 | of those are pretty great oh no but I think here's the other thing I'm glad there's no |
| 00:26:55 | self it's because this gives people a reason to walk up to strangers and say hey would you mind |
| 00:27:01 | taking a photo because you need to be friendly at Disneyland Disney World and you should have a selfie stick but |
| 00:27:06 | you know you know the problem of every time you hand your camera or phone to a stranger take your photo. |
| 00:27:12 | Nobody takes your photo right. Do they. Yeah I still can't take my |
| 00:27:18 | wife still my favorite picture I take so I don't hand your photo but my my aggravate |
| 00:27:24 | my aggravation is is that people back ups so far. I let me get everything in it |
| 00:27:24 | my aggravation is is that people back ups so far. I let me get everything in it |
| 00:27:29 | we can all know we want the subjects' mostly we want to a little bit of the background but I don't need the entire |
| 00:27:34 | castle in this shot. So the subjects are little specks |
| 00:27:40 | in the photo and it's like no no I don't want that you know and so when I see people go |
| 00:27:45 | you know stepping back to take a photo go No Come Closer closer closer closer. |
| 00:27:50 | That's always drive me nuts. D L If the person taking a photo. |
| 00:27:56 | I don't yell but I tell them to come closer when I see the backing up you really are. What's |
| 00:27:56 | I don't yell but I tell them to come closer when I see the backing up you really are. What's |
| 00:28:01 | a structured story and tell me about this is that this is just a research |
| 00:28:06 | project right now and I was looking at the video on how they do this and it seems like a lot of extra |
| 00:28:11 | work but the whole premise is well if we structure news stories |
| 00:28:22 | like line by line like database elements if you will then we can like rearrange |
| 00:28:27 | and many people can contribute to a story and produce it and the |
| 00:28:32 | Your And I was watching this and you just see the Almighty God like a ton of work to do some very simple project |
| 00:28:38 | but the argument is that once you sort of get by that initial hurdle of this kind |
| 00:28:38 | but the argument is that once you sort of get by that initial hurdle of this kind |
| 00:28:43 | of like you know when you're setting up a C.R.M. database at the beginning it's very painful if |
| 00:28:48 | you will. Once you get by that initial thing is this whole concept of of |
| 00:29:10 | very interesting around journalism and I'm just intrigued to watch this sort of this |
| 00:29:15 | concept develop self only well have a link to it and I believe you go to structured stories dot com You can actually |
| 00:29:20 | sort of participate in it in it as well but it just kind of a research project as well right |
| 00:29:25 | now. Unlike our podcast which are not structured at all no not at all. And |
| 00:29:30 | by the way have you seen tumbler T.V. now so this is really fun. |
| 00:29:36 | I don't even I haven't played with it at all in a long time but did you ever play with the Stumble Upon. |
| 00:29:42 | I said Yeah I don't know how we stumbled on that one song. I haven't used it in years but |
| 00:30:08 | giving that those fun moments you just sit there and one watch one after another and they're |
| 00:30:13 | all kind of silly for that reason. But you could also search and if you're looking to kind of create a story |
| 00:30:18 | with animated gifs I mean tumbler T.V. is a way to do it and you can find them there. So it's |
| 00:30:24 | super fun. Double check it out. I |
| 00:30:24 | super fun. Double check it out. I |
| 00:30:29 | would think I was one or the people who are able to make gear for their picture on Twitter right there. A comic |
| 00:30:36 | How do you do that any suggestions for me but I wonder though there are there are |
| 00:30:36 | How do you do that any suggestions for me but I wonder though there are there are |
| 00:30:43 | websites all Craig gives out of collections of photos or |
| 00:30:48 | videos for that matter so you can do that but I don't really sort of you can have a I |
| 00:30:54 | haven't seen it so you can have an icon on Twitter oh no no just in the like when you post a photo |
| 00:30:59 | another there are actually I can gather and it will. Hey |
| 00:31:14 | my mind too that the barriers to entry are going down like it seem like you know fifty |
| 00:31:20 | years ago to have starting started a venture capital firm like you had to have like |
| 00:31:25 | a ton of money behind you. We were connected. My coming from an ivory league school |
| 00:31:31 | run on your last name last name me a cross child or something. But now like it's |
| 00:31:37 | never going to work for actual capital firms a lot of people are saying here I'm connected I |
| 00:31:42 | know I can I know people money I have a great Rolex or to start my own and you kind of seen that more and more |
| 00:31:47 | there's an article about a Tech Crunch and and I kind of think I have a fine or started a V.C. firm just |
| 00:31:52 | for music. Brian Ziska runs the music tech conference out of here |
| 00:31:52 | for music. Brian Ziska runs the music tech conference out of here |
| 00:31:57 | and he started his own essentially. Investment firm itself and kind |
| 00:32:02 | of go I mean what I mean I think kind of the ultimate culmination that is like Angel Estie |
| 00:32:13 | from launch taco but when everything started like one of the early |
| 00:32:19 | blog networks. He has it like there's a lot of people with these syndicates |
| 00:32:24 | So an angel Duco angel if you could start your own syndicate and people would just |
| 00:32:30 | start you know you say OK minimum five thousand to get in your pockets if you have a fall I think the key is you |
| 00:32:35 | have a following in a name and a platform. There's really nothing to stop you from becoming |
| 00:32:40 | a some sort of like angel investor which is kind of the you know the kind of the beginning |
| 00:32:45 | of our becoming a better catalyst right I mean the more interesting stuff is Angel busting them even more so than that |
| 00:32:50 | kind of being like an old school venture capitalist. Yeah I mean I actually |
| 00:32:56 | think who's also gotten into this is my old boss at the Tech T.V. and former C.E.O. |
| 00:33:01 | of Revision three years or Jim lot about he's jumped into the game is itself just very recent to some |
| 00:33:06 | point like when everyone starts making startups and becomes a venture capitalist where they can invest in because that's what's happening. |
| 00:33:12 | Well they're going to vest and people invest in another venture |
| 00:33:12 | Well they're going to vest and people invest in another venture |
| 00:33:17 | capital firm but that's not a bad idea will do isn't the whole idea just put your money a man |
| 00:33:22 | from Libby to our listeners. Hey thank you as always |
| 00:33:22 | from Libby to our listeners. Hey thank you as always |
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| 00:33:56 | we while we suggest you listen to our pockets we have recommendations of two other. Because |
| 00:34:01 | what you're pod casting recommendation. Lately I've been dabbling |
| 00:34:07 | a lot of it in cooking podcasts and to buy gas and put it on the market to summit right |
| 00:34:13 | and there's this one called Cookie she's a post by a guy named Dave Arnold just got this great |
| 00:34:18 | style. I'd recommend it into the video partisan old audio and the latest one |
| 00:34:18 | style. I'd recommend it into the video partisan old audio and the latest one |
| 00:34:23 | is actually with a company I know pretty you know fairly well called Mel one of the gases from |
| 00:34:28 | chemical mold so if you're into kind of like if you're foodie in a kind of the |
| 00:34:33 | intersection of technology and food. What's happening on the cutting edge. It's a good one. Are now |
| 00:34:39 | I highly recommend and I just thought as one is recommendation and there's only been four episodes so far |
| 00:34:44 | as we can kind of jump on and get on from the start. But Bear is doing |
| 00:34:49 | a late show podcast about the creation of the show the whole process of getting there you know actually doing it because |
| 00:34:55 | what has its producers though. He's the host and then he brings on different staff |
| 00:35:16 | talked about one of the episodes. He actually talked about the old days of building another |
| 00:35:21 | show it's really fascinating not too long a show I think you know it's between like seventeen and twenty |
| 00:35:27 | minutes each episode it's really funny and I'll say the one thing that I thought was most |
| 00:36:35 | you know the new new second season trying to talk to be watching it. I have not watched the first season |
| 00:36:41 | or whatever form I have to I know it's on my list present to you. I finished by the way |
| 00:36:46 | watching beep which was again fantastic but no true detective |
| 00:36:51 | the Melissa two haven't seen how they are in another I don't want to make is another I don't coming Game of Thrones. |
| 00:36:57 | The other new show THE BRINK looks great. There's so much I took did I tell you about a video game |
| 00:37:02 | earlier this week that I still haven't played yes will actually go seeking it that. We're |
| 00:37:08 | going to let our audience go as well. They think you so much. Audience Thank you |
| 00:37:13 | Michel. And please tell all your friends about teardowns. |
| 00:37:19 | I want to |
| 00:00:01 | Welcome to the tear down show |
| 00:00:12 | me David you have an L. a story for me I do have an L.A. story for you and |
| 00:00:17 | it has to do with people being helpful flights not helpful at first all |
| 00:00:22 | the phrase can I help you can be told. Set in different |
| 00:00:27 | ways you can be. Can I help you. Which is a true honest way of doing that |
| 00:00:32 | or if you're in a place where maybe you shouldn't be or perceived you shouldn't be |
| 00:00:37 | . You might get the can I help you which is anything |
| 00:00:46 | It can mean anything. Yeah. Right right. There's actually Rob |
| 00:00:51 | Schneider used to have a bit before it became very successful or it's sort of the beginning with success he |
| 00:00:56 | was on the Letterman show and he did this whole routine about the different ways you can say do it in |
| 00:00:56 | was on the Letterman show and he did this whole routine about the different ways you can say do it in |
| 00:01:01 | all the different meanings behind Dude it's a very funny bit |
| 00:01:06 | but I I had the dichotomy of help on our shoot so we did a |
| 00:01:11 | shoot at a hotel in Los Angeles of which we |
| 00:01:16 | had my our client had paid for a room and so there's all this stuff and we were |
| 00:01:21 | in a lobby or put in an inmate in an area that literally no human was walking |
| 00:01:25 | through I mean nobody zero. And they actually moved a giant like |
| 00:01:30 | overstuffed chair out of our way so we could you know operator if she were doing interviews and |
| 00:01:30 | overstuffed chair out of our way so we could you know operator if she were doing interviews and |
| 00:01:36 | all my shooter had was a tripod. |
| 00:01:41 | In an area of which there was also an area eight feet wide for people to |
| 00:01:51 | from the hotel come up to us and they want us to put the |
| 00:01:56 | tripod down because they think it's a fire hazard |
| 00:02:00 | . I go to who like because when we have insurance issues |
| 00:02:00 | . I go to who like because when we have insurance issues |
| 00:02:04 | and all the stuff and like there is no one walking here no one not a |
| 00:02:09 | human. Now the complete flip side of that and we're like What is wrong |
| 00:02:09 | human. Now the complete flip side of that and we're like What is wrong |
| 00:02:14 | with people that they have to find a problem and that is finding a problem that is |
| 00:02:19 | not a problem. So we were just kind of befuddled like someone's getting upset about those |
| 00:02:24 | two issues to comments about it. Second we were shooting |
| 00:02:29 | construction sites in Los Angeles and usually when we shoot construction sites we kind of find the |
| 00:02:34 | opening construction site and shoot insider. We're kind across the street and we would maybe be in a |
| 00:02:39 | parking lot and shoot down but we never actually go on the construction site. |
| 00:02:39 | parking lot and shoot down but we never actually go on the construction site. |
| 00:02:43 | Well my shooter was there shooting a construction site. The security guy |
| 00:02:48 | was so forthcoming he says they let me get your hardhat and a vest had him sign a release |
| 00:02:53 | form and then took him around the entire construction site so we could shoot. We have no |
| 00:02:53 | form and then took him around the entire construction site so we could shoot. We have no |
| 00:02:58 | set up for this or anything we just kind of appeared he was unbelievably helpful |
| 00:03:03 | so I just. When you see someone who needs help. Go |
| 00:03:03 | so I just. When you see someone who needs help. Go |
| 00:03:08 | out and really help them. But don't be a hinderance as my story is that I have here |
| 00:03:13 | which I was just so amazed at like how helpful doc I was and how a pain in the butt |
| 00:03:19 | that hotel was unnecessarily so. |
| 00:03:19 | that hotel was unnecessarily so. |
| 00:03:23 | Yet seems like the guy should be flipped like the guy he was like at a construction site |
| 00:03:28 | who's looking after your health or some place he could probably die. He's the one the more likely to be a |
| 00:03:33 | pain because he doesn't you know and I don't know let me tell you and then tell should like |
| 00:03:33 | pain because he doesn't you know and I don't know let me tell you and then tell should like |
| 00:03:38 | was it a nice hotel holiday should be do you know you possible to like make your life better |
| 00:03:43 | yet. |
| 00:03:43 | yet. |
| 00:03:43 | Well not only that it's not like we just randomly showed up at the club or was |
| 00:03:48 | had paid an enormous amount of money to be |
| 00:03:54 | home and we did pay this construction site anything you know like we're just happy to be there so |
| 00:03:59 | don't normally construction sites. Either they just completely ignore you or they tell you to go away |
| 00:04:05 | but to go away has been rare we have only had that happen a couple of times not that I'm not in |
| 00:04:10 | college you know we have our first story is the uber story in France but let's go Straight to Mark |
| 00:04:15 | man first and then yes OK we can talk Mark Martin So you did most of the interview I did it |
| 00:04:20 | I loved it I thought it was a fantastic interview. |
| 00:04:24 | I think it shows like The Power of the long form listening experience of |
| 00:04:33 | just one on one with the person no I am not what I haven't heard it without the glare. Like cable like |
| 00:04:38 | you know sure he's out to get you watching a half hour interview with him and Gore wryly |
| 00:04:43 | like but that's just so tense. |
| 00:05:10 | that and just how proud he is of his two daughters and |
| 00:05:15 | understandably and obviously so but it was just a great interview and I thought Mark Mehran |
| 00:05:19 | handled so very very well and the whole thing now did you also listen to the follow up |
| 00:05:24 | podcast where they talked about the whole experience I have to do that that's exciting. |
| 00:05:29 | I didn't even know there was one but to your point about just you know pulling out |
| 00:05:33 | pieces about that from this interview in like kind of giving insights into his life I mean just. |
| 00:05:33 | pieces about that from this interview in like kind of giving insights into his life I mean just. |
| 00:05:38 | He's is exchanges with his daughters who are growing up and like you know how it's been a little |
| 00:05:43 | stressful for them because they get tired of the seeking you know Secret Service detail when they go over to |
| 00:05:48 | friends for sleep overs and he's like he's like he tells his daughters and if you think I'm |
| 00:05:52 | driving you're going to pick you up over your friends out here and after like a night out |
| 00:05:57 | you're crazy I mean does that kind of that little insight into his life to share |
| 00:06:02 | his specifics of his life and develop it. |
| 00:06:06 | I do I can't imagine being a teenager growing up in an environment trying to grow up as a normal |
| 00:06:11 | teenager it's not easy you know it's a little bizarre to |
| 00:06:16 | say the least but no I mean but I mean can you remember I don't |
| 00:06:16 | say the least but no I mean but I mean can you remember I don't |
| 00:06:21 | remember a time where a president a sitting president had a conversation with |
| 00:06:25 | another person or just seems like to do this. |
| 00:06:28 | Yes it in that what he and it came off just like the two thirds are talking like they could've been having a |
| 00:06:33 | beer like you don't get that like everything and I just remember how and this isn't a comment on Bush but |
| 00:06:39 | he seems so. Programmed especially through the end of this doesn't mean every every |
| 00:06:43 | and every word with so many tears so measured and you know now he was speaking to his politics I feel |
| 00:06:48 | like he probably thought there's a lot of pressure on him to make sure every word was said exactly the right |
| 00:06:53 | way for fear of a you know kind of an ocular inoculating himself against my |
| 00:06:58 | criticism and that's just the way most presidents are so to get this and |
| 00:07:03 | varnished interview with Mark Mehran with Marc Mero trademark style it was just it |
| 00:07:08 | was a great lesson. |
| 00:07:09 | I so highly right whether you listen to Marc Mero not just listen to this one |
| 00:07:09 | I so highly right whether you listen to Marc Mero not just listen to this one |
| 00:07:14 | interview with the president. I believe you can just go to there's also a website that the |
| 00:07:18 | sponsor Squarespace would set up. Mark meets Obama |
| 00:07:38 | to his producer about this and I do realize that they are to the |
| 00:07:43 | White House that actually contacted Marin through the website a |
| 00:07:49 | year ago this so this started a year ago this whole process and so they just talk about the |
| 00:07:54 | whole process the whole process. Secret Service showing up and tending the house and on all |
| 00:08:09 | see the news that came out after the interview. |
| 00:08:13 | So. I think a lot about they just focus on not actually focused on |
| 00:08:18 | the factories and then word and every criticism decontextualized |
| 00:08:51 | well they only know that I know either. |
| 00:08:54 | Yeah that's a take that's a horrible event. I know and just when I heard that I was like oh my God |
| 00:08:58 | that's not the story. |
| 00:08:58 | that's not the story. |
| 00:09:01 | And they Yeah that's the story that gets it's the story that you know a certain segment the |
| 00:09:06 | media just want you to take away because that's the that's why he's also laced. |
| 00:09:39 | that I think it was he references L.B.J. Lyndon B. Johnson |
| 00:09:44 | saying the word on television and that would desensitize work from thinking well maybe not but would do |
| 00:09:49 | the opposite. But but the irony that he referenced a president to desensitize the word and now |
| 00:09:54 | today we have a president say the word which now it it desensitizing it just so |
| 00:09:59 | yeah and I love everyone who has advice for him and criticism about how should I say |
| 00:09:59 | yeah and I love everyone who has advice for him and criticism about how should I say |
| 00:10:04 | this word or white like yeah |
| 00:10:09 | everyone is so critical for the way people which I know it's that |
| 00:10:38 | comedians I mean just watching just stores getting reaction to them is just you know it's |
| 00:10:43 | kind of putting a fine point on how much I'm going to miss John store just to see his reaction to |
| 00:10:48 | this thing is we're recording this on a Saturday will have this dropping like next middle next |
| 00:10:53 | week who knows what what Trump will do between out of bed like |
| 00:11:02 | so pissed off the entire country of Mexico. |
| 00:11:10 | Like I did so you know you don't do that as the president I read somewhere as a head as a drab I had one |
| 00:11:15 | for me. |
| 00:11:15 | for me. |
| 00:11:16 | Someone said he's second in the polls or something what is that going to the polls and yet be possible that |
| 00:11:21 | well because he is the only well known name Bush then and then nobody knows any of the other |
| 00:11:26 | names but it just shows you the craziness of the world today. Yeah yeah and now |
| 00:11:31 | he won't let a staff member of Univision on one of his property. These |
| 00:11:38 | days it's just like oh my God he's so he's so crazy |
| 00:11:38 | days it's just like oh my God he's so he's so crazy |
| 00:11:44 | on the president if I didn't I wasn't if I was a word for the country I'd want to be president of the entertainment value |
| 00:11:49 | . |
| 00:11:50 | Well they are you testing. So years ago when I was doing standup I had jokes similar to |
| 00:11:55 | about Ross Perot and I would you know like a Mr to Donald Trump I said you know we should |
| 00:12:00 | just all vote for Trump. You know it'll be funny. It will be funny |
| 00:12:13 | . Those two people could not be more on track in thoughtfulness three |
| 00:12:18 | contrast was just amazing and it's a very |
| 00:12:23 | yeah and you know Trump is part of I think what's driving Travers I think |
| 00:12:23 | yeah and you know Trump is part of I think what's driving Travers I think |
| 00:12:28 | Obama personally distant at the president at the president's press dinner like four or five |
| 00:12:33 | years ago he actually insult them like Trump was an audience and I think I think that's got to be |
| 00:12:48 | worktop you're spectacular. |
| 00:12:51 | He got better and I mean again we're going to pause and encourage anyone who has a listen to |
| 00:12:55 | his eulogy for though you have the last night for an hour listening |
| 00:13:00 | to and it's well worth it |
| 00:13:01 | . So it's just it's just a huge huge huge for the president. All right |
| 00:13:07 | we have wasted thirty minutes just talking about that. Let's get into. |
| 00:13:12 | They get into some of our tax where you want to we can burn through these the French government is trying to shut |
| 00:13:16 | down. We were you know there were protests the supposed a year ago that the French |
| 00:13:21 | government found Hoover illegal the service and |
| 00:13:21 | government found Hoover illegal the service and |
| 00:13:26 | Goober is trying to work a way around it. It's the name of the service out there is pop |
| 00:13:31 | and there were you know I actually saw a big protest of which Courtney Love was involved |
| 00:13:35 | . Very high violence between the taxis |
| 00:13:45 | I think I'm going to mention on an earlier pockets that I met one of the founders of goober like four years |
| 00:13:50 | ago at a bar and my initial reaction was Well good luck to him through the you know |
| 00:13:55 | the sort of the unionization of the taxis but they did successfully but I |
| 00:14:53 | the janitors Union was on strike and I mean |
| 00:14:58 | you know no commentary on that all just like it's going to show me that an early age like whether they have a |
| 00:15:03 | strong hold on to other parts of society over there. |
| 00:15:06 | Yeah you know well let's move on |
| 00:15:12 | I want to I like I like the idea of a tractor truck what is the treasure truck someone |
| 00:15:17 | described it as a pirate truck but with treasure. |
| 00:15:22 | It's like a pirate ship or treasure and it's on a truck and you know it's called the treasure from Amazon |
| 00:15:27 | and it's on its way. I'm super excited. Kind like it's almost like ice cream truck |
| 00:15:32 | for adults to me and one of the cool things well in Seattle is like you get to see the |
| 00:15:37 | crazy Amazon ideas first and it's literally just a truck that drives around |
| 00:15:42 | Seattle it's like insane deals in the first one is a and |
| 00:15:47 | I'm pretty excited about it because my wife's been wanting us to paddle paddle board for a |
| 00:15:51 | while and their first year as a stand up available paddle board set for ninety nine |
| 00:15:56 | dollars retail price for close to five hundred dollars. |
| 00:15:56 | dollars retail price for close to five hundred dollars. |
| 00:16:01 | But it's so old school in a way. So the idea is that it's kind of like a |
| 00:16:06 | movable womb if you will. |
| 00:16:08 | Yeah I mean you know like the bookmobile how exciting the book when you |
| 00:16:13 | remember when I came I must say that I like the ice cream truck a lot |
| 00:16:17 | . Yeah and I have like my kids like it been years since I met when I ski trip on my neighbor a |
| 00:16:22 | bike and I like that like about a week ago I was outside having the car of my son and I heard the ice |
| 00:16:27 | cream truck like this Kristie kind of like bam. Like a kidnapper van with |
| 00:16:34 | Bush stickers on site I don't care. I told my son to go get his |
| 00:16:34 | Bush stickers on site I don't care. I told my son to go get his |
| 00:16:38 | sister we're going to buy some ice cream and that's going to really to see a little a little kid to pop his head out of the |
| 00:16:43 | door like the dad was driving and the kid is like now how do you sure that was the |
| 00:16:43 | door like the dad was driving and the kid is like now how do you sure that was the |
| 00:16:48 | dad and the kid or not. |
| 00:16:50 | So you know I guess I should say if you pretty happy to be handing us ice cream because well |
| 00:17:19 | go. |
| 00:17:20 | So it's just it's just a really fun promotional idea I think is a great idea |
| 00:17:25 | . Yeah. Blake and I'm going to break crowds in exactly the |
| 00:17:25 | . Yeah. Blake and I'm going to break crowds in exactly the |
| 00:17:30 | locks in the video to you know it's a really fun silly. |
| 00:17:35 | A promotional idea I think is a good idea let's go. Treasured up the church which are very fun idea |
| 00:17:40 | . Hate Now this this next thing the Google undo |
| 00:17:40 | . Hate Now this this next thing the Google undo |
| 00:17:45 | send feature which is something that I thought they had a while ago. |
| 00:17:48 | This I've been easily for eight years it's my favorite thing |
| 00:17:48 | This I've been easily for eight years it's my favorite thing |
| 00:17:50 | . Yes So why is this kind of a big new thing I'm trying to understand how it went from |
| 00:17:54 | so you know when you kind of knows the ins and outs of Google Mail G.-Mail they |
| 00:17:59 | have labs which people could create these experimental work ins are features |
| 00:18:05 | and it's a you have a when he graduates from being a Google Labs thing to make an official |
| 00:18:10 | feature that's what's happened and so they I think that's why it was in the news. But I've been using it |
| 00:18:10 | feature that's what's happened and so they I think that's why it was in the news. But I've been using it |
| 00:18:15 | for like at least a couple years now I don't can't tell you how many times to save my bacon |
| 00:18:20 | just sending in something and then realizing you have someone on there that you don't |
| 00:18:20 | just sending in something and then realizing you have someone on there that you don't |
| 00:18:25 | or you said the wrong thing or you forgot attachment had ended so you have a |
| 00:18:30 | delayed for thirty seconds I have a maxed out in a minute because I can just do it or they may offer Sanogo |
| 00:18:36 | like I did with a man but there's also the time where like you're you're on a call like you |
| 00:18:40 | have a schedule call likes someone's waiting for your Power Point presentation or whatever and I hit |
| 00:18:45 | send I said it'll be there in a minute. |
| 00:18:47 | Like because I don't I like avoided this because it's fun. |
| 00:19:03 | . |
| 00:19:04 | Ludicrous was a beta forever and people were using it as a regular product but yet it was a beta product for |
| 00:19:08 | so so long as for strike I remember getting like like I haven't asked for an invite |
| 00:19:13 | for because I think it's two thousand and four. I got my G. Mail invite but at the time you had to know |
| 00:19:18 | someone and they didn't have to send you an invite or that you're |
| 00:19:24 | all right let's move on Fred Wilson. So people |
| 00:19:39 | he's kind of like up there with Andresen mentors like P.C.'s that people kind of follow every |
| 00:19:44 | word hang on every word and he wrote a piece I thought was pretty good |
| 00:19:50 | about how he's getting sick of seeing business plans and pitches from startups |
| 00:20:16 | he's just getting tired of it he says you don't have to forsake profitability where the very least |
| 00:20:21 | even if you're going for growth early on and know you are in the loop losing money you should think about your path to responsibility |
| 00:20:26 | and think that's a great point and English more start to think about that. |
| 00:20:29 | Well it's interesting so there's an event here in San Francisco called S of new tech |
| 00:20:34 | and the very first it's an event where startups get up |
| 00:20:39 | and present their company did a five minutes demo it in five minutes a question from the audience and the |
| 00:20:43 | first question is always asked of the audience and now they don't even bother they just sort of ask the question right at the |
| 00:20:43 | first question is always asked of the audience and now they don't even bother they just sort of ask the question right at the |
| 00:20:48 | beginning or they go to the audience is how are we going to make money it is always a |
| 00:20:53 | question how do you make money how you can. And so |
| 00:20:53 | question how do you make money how you can. And so |
| 00:20:58 | this has become such a sort of standard thing you know if you remember the dot com boom. No |
| 00:21:02 | one thought about making money and I mean no one thought about making money. They just thought |
| 00:21:07 | about I don't leak and I go yeah I thought it was ludicrous and it was the |
| 00:21:12 | revenue model was just sell sell the business not make money ourselves or |
| 00:21:17 | complain about that like most of these species are mostly starts to think about OK how do I get from |
| 00:21:33 | of all how many years have you had Netflix. |
| 00:21:36 | WAY longer than you my friend since the ninety's. I don't want to use a |
| 00:21:41 | disc only thing no matter what it is it is going to call it. |
| 00:21:49 | and I moved to Seattle back to Seattle. |
| 00:21:52 | I think I had about thirteen fourteen years so I had it around two thousand two thousand and one maybe. |
| 00:21:58 | Yeah that's what I mean most people didn't get it I think until it became |
| 00:21:58 | Yeah that's what I mean most people didn't get it I think until it became |
| 00:22:03 | like a streaming thing alive. |
| 00:22:05 | I know I had a D.V.D.'s for many many years many many years. I think with maybe fourteen years I've had I've |
| 00:22:10 | had it for a long time but I'm not as heavy a user anymore I barely barely used but you know |
| 00:22:14 | being that the price is so low you know I never think to get rid of it but |
| 00:22:35 | on Facebook and there's sort of conflicting views some deleted some don't. But according to their math |
| 00:22:40 | and I'm just sort of isolated there's a lot of numbers here but they claim that the |
| 00:22:44 | average Netflix user is watching two hours |
| 00:22:44 | average Netflix user is watching two hours |
| 00:22:49 | per day per subscriber per day so that means also if you have a household the total household |
| 00:22:54 | could be watching you know two hours per day of the thing that seems like a lot because |
| 00:22:59 | I definitely do not watch two hours per day of Netflix. What do you think. |
| 00:22:59 | I definitely do not watch two hours per day of Netflix. What do you think. |
| 00:23:04 | I mean that's you know no wealth of your day. I haven't. On average like |
| 00:23:09 | really read through this and absorb it. I don't leave because I watch maybe ten hours a |
| 00:23:14 | month on Netflix |
| 00:23:15 | . Most that means to take up my slack other people are watching three |
| 00:23:20 | to four hours a day to this I don't watch more T.V. like most of what I watch is netflix and |
| 00:23:25 | i can watch a series like an episode or a night and day so like for |
| 00:23:29 | me. But that's kind of a bounce for like me having the T.V. on for three |
| 00:23:34 | hours watching like a marriage game so I think what's actually if anything's going to make you |
| 00:23:39 | see is not true is like life sports because that's what I think consumes a lot of like live viewing |
| 00:23:44 | time or like you know viewing time on Fox for example. |
| 00:23:47 | Well I just don't watch two hours of T.V. a day and I'd like to do is here's my |
| 00:23:52 | frustration I on Sunday and it is just my own |
| 00:23:57 | personal overwhelm and with Sunday I bought myself a really cool new |
| 00:24:02 | it's actually old it's been around for all the horizon to driving to and I still haven't played the |
| 00:24:02 | it's actually old it's been around for all the horizon to driving to and I still haven't played the |
| 00:24:07 | darn thing so it's not that I don't I don't have time for T.V. or to play the game that |
| 00:24:12 | I've paid for either but I think this weekend I will play. If you're busy I know you're busy |
| 00:24:17 | making money my friend. I know I know I know someone asked me. |
| 00:24:25 | All right let's get into the next story we haven't heard about but I didn't realize that he was a victim. |
| 00:24:29 | Do you have a selfie stick. |
| 00:24:31 | Do not own a selfie sick I think first of all I actually I've only once seen one |
| 00:24:36 | up close and personal. Someone else was showing me their selfie stick which sounds a little crude |
| 00:24:41 | . |
| 00:24:41 | . |
| 00:24:44 | Yeah I mean my and my wife got one as a gift because she and her friend news she's going |
| 00:24:49 | to New York and actually if you go Mike on a vacation or two away to Hawaii or something like |
| 00:24:54 | that actually makes sense to bring one even though the people who |
| 00:25:05 | but you know Disney the news came out this week that they banned. |
| 00:25:10 | Yeah they look at them look for them at security I mean that's where I saw Tom was I was a designer and a couple months |
| 00:25:15 | ago and like there are so many of them and like it's always someone the ruins of for another person. Like I mean it's |
| 00:25:20 | like that's the rule everything right like is that one person ruins and so I think well it |
| 00:25:25 | wasn't so in here's the clarification they didn't have a problem |
| 00:25:28 | . People having selfies sticks on the grounds of Disney. The problem was the people |
| 00:25:42 | called the big mountain you know railroad roller coaster and maids that you know they were recently |
| 00:25:47 | at the peak they were taking a selfie and it's like. |
| 00:25:49 | Now forget it we're going to let you know when the roller coaster is like those where they take a picture of |
| 00:25:54 | you and make you used to actually have people there and guard against you taking pictures of the |
| 00:26:04 | they want you to pay like twenty dollars for the picture but now they don't care they've given up so you can like every ride I went |
| 00:26:09 | on I take a picture of my smartphone of the picture. |
| 00:26:12 | We'll have one one of the rides I went on you can actually e-mailed the photo to yourself for FREE. They |
| 00:26:21 | the the the Toy Story right it lets you do that |
| 00:26:27 | but no I do know him and comedian Doug Benson has a bit about this and that is they |
| 00:26:32 | do you know truly edit those photos like on Splash Mountain. If you flip the |
| 00:26:41 | so there is no there's no no visual profanity. |
| 00:26:46 | Well at Disneyland or world. Some of those are pretty great. |
| 00:26:53 | No but I think here's the other thing I'm glad that yourself it's because this gives people a reason to walk up |
| 00:26:58 | to strangers and say hey would you like mind taking a photo because you need to be |
| 00:27:03 | friendly at Disneyland Disney World and you should have a selfie so you know you know the problem of |
| 00:27:08 | every time you hand your camera or phone to a stranger take your photo. The |
| 00:27:12 | Nobody takes your photo right. |
| 00:27:14 | Do they. Yeah I still can't take my wife still mocks every picture it |
| 00:27:14 | Do they. Yeah I still can't take my wife still mocks every picture it |
| 00:27:19 | takes I like don't hand your photos by my aggravate |
| 00:27:24 | my aggravation is is that people back up so far. |
| 00:27:24 | my aggravation is is that people back up so far. |
| 00:27:27 | I let me get everything in it we couldn't or no we want the subjects mostly we want a little bit of the |
| 00:27:32 | background but I don't need the entire castle in the |
| 00:27:32 | background but I don't need the entire castle in the |
| 00:27:37 | shot like the subjects are little specks in the photo and it's a you know I'm like No |
| 00:27:42 | no I don't want that you know and so when I see people go you know stepping back to take a photo go |
| 00:27:46 | No Come Closer closer closer closer that always drives me |
| 00:27:51 | nuts. |
| 00:27:52 | D L If the person taking a photo. |
| 00:27:56 | I don't yell but I tell them to come closer when I see them backing up really far. Hey |
| 00:27:56 | I don't yell but I tell them to come closer when I see them backing up really far. Hey |
| 00:28:01 | what's a structured story and tell me what this is this is just a |
| 00:28:05 | research project right now and I was looking at the video and how they do this and it seems like a |
| 00:28:10 | lot of extra work but the whole premise is well if we |
| 00:28:19 | actions and all that stuff into literally like line by line like database |
| 00:28:24 | elements if you will then we can like rearrange and many people can contribute to a |
| 00:28:29 | story and produce it and the Your And I was watching this and it |
| 00:28:34 | just seemed Almighty God like a ton of work to do some very simple project but the |
| 00:28:39 | argument is that once you sort of get by that initial hurdle of this kind of like you know |
| 00:28:39 | argument is that once you sort of get by that initial hurdle of this kind of like you know |
| 00:28:44 | when you're setting up a C.R.M. database in the beginning it's very painful if you will |
| 00:28:50 | want to get by that initial thing is this whole concept of developing stories can go |
| 00:28:59 | plagiarism comes in here as well. But it's just |
| 00:29:04 | I'm always fascinated by faster ways to create content with a video but this |
| 00:29:09 | was very interesting around journalism and I'm just intrigued to watch this |
| 00:29:09 | was very interesting around journalism and I'm just intrigued to watch this |
| 00:29:14 | sort of this concept develop self only. Well have a link to it and I believe you go to structured |
| 00:29:19 | stories dot com You can actually sort of participate in it in it as well but it's just kind |
| 00:29:19 | stories dot com You can actually sort of participate in it in it as well but it's just kind |
| 00:29:24 | of a research project right now. |
| 00:29:27 | Unlike our podcasts which are not structured at all no not at all. |
| 00:29:30 | And by the way have you seen Tumblr T.V. now so this is really fun |
| 00:29:35 | . I don't even I haven't played with it at all in a long time but did you ever play with the |
| 00:29:40 | Stumble Upon. |
| 00:29:46 | I haven't used it in years but I used to just like you know the whole sort of be |
| 00:29:51 | the discovery process a stumble upon where you just sort of kind of keep you know mind numbingly |
| 00:29:56 | hitting the button to see kind of the next thing the next thing the next site. Well public T.V. |
| 00:30:11 | watch one after another and they're all kind of silly for that reason but you can |
| 00:30:16 | also search and if you're looking to kind of create a story with animated gifs I mean tumbler |
| 00:30:21 | T.V. is a way to do it and you can find the bear so it's super fun |
| 00:30:25 | . Definitely check it out. |
| 00:30:25 | . Definitely check it out. |
| 00:30:29 | I always think I was wonder if the people are able to make a gift for their picture on Twitter right there |
| 00:30:34 | icon like how do you do that. |
| 00:30:37 | Any suggestions for me but I wonder though there are there are |
| 00:30:43 | websites or crate gives out of collections of photos |
| 00:30:47 | or videos for that matter so you can do that but I don't know if you can |
| 00:30:52 | have a I haven't seen it so you can have a icon on Twitter oh no just you |
| 00:30:57 | need like when you post a photo it's another their actual icon |
| 00:31:02 | there that's kind of cool. |
| 00:31:20 | to have starting started Patrick out of firm like you had to have like |
| 00:31:25 | you know a ton of money behind it were connected. My coming from an ivory idly |
| 00:31:30 | school Ronnie your last name last name e Bay Rothschild or something |
| 00:31:35 | but now like it's like going to work for venture capital firms a lot of people are saying here |
| 00:31:40 | I'm connected I know I can I know people money have a great Rolodex or to start |
| 00:31:45 | my own and you kind of seen them or more there's an article about a Tech Crunch and I think |
| 00:31:50 | I have a plan or started a V.C. firm just for music. |
| 00:31:55 | Brian's this who runs the music tech conference out here and he started his own |
| 00:32:01 | investment firm itself and it's kind of cool. |
| 00:32:17 | the the early blog networks. He has it like |
| 00:32:22 | there's a lot of people with these syndicates So an angel doco into lest you destroy your own |
| 00:32:28 | syndicate and people will just start you know you say OK minimum five thousand get in |
| 00:32:28 | syndicate and people will just start you know you say OK minimum five thousand get in |
| 00:32:32 | your pockets if you have a fall I think the key is if you have a following in a name and a platform |
| 00:32:38 | there's really nothing to stop you from becoming a some sort of like angel investor which is kind of the |
| 00:32:43 | you know the kind of the beginning of our becoming a better catalyst right I mean the more interesting |
| 00:32:48 | stuff is Angel messing them even more so than that kind of being like an old school venture capitalist |
| 00:32:59 | take the name former C.E.O. of Religion three years virgin lot about you know jumped into the game. |
| 00:33:04 | So just very recently at some point like when everyone starts making startups and Iran becomes a venture |
| 00:33:09 | capitalist where they can invest in because that's what's happening |
| 00:33:09 | capitalist where they can invest in because that's what's happening |
| 00:33:11 | . Well they're going to vest in people you know maybe you could |
| 00:33:16 | invest in another venture capital firm. That's not a bad idea. Well do you think the whole |
| 00:33:21 | idea is just put your money remember you know to our listeners |
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| 00:34:00 | two other podcasts. What's your podcast recommendation. |
| 00:34:04 | Lately I've been dabbling a little bit in cooking podcasts |
| 00:34:09 | and by cast and put on the US market summit right. And there's this one |
| 00:34:09 | and by cast and put on the US market summit right. And there's this one |
| 00:34:15 | called Cookie she's with host by a guy named Dave Arnold just got this great style. |
| 00:34:20 | I'd recommend it into the video parts as you note in the latest one is actually with a company I know pretty you |
| 00:34:25 | know fairly well. Called Mel one of the gases from a chemical mold so |
| 00:34:30 | and if you're into kind of like if you're a foodie in kind of the intersection of technology and |
| 00:34:35 | to the kind of what's happening on the cutting edge it's a good one. |
| 00:34:39 | Now I highly recommend and I just saw this one as a recommendation and there's only been four |
| 00:34:43 | episodes so far so you can kind of jump on and get on from the start but |
| 00:34:43 | episodes so far so you can kind of jump on and get on from the start but |
| 00:34:48 | still compare is doing a late show podcast about the creation of the show the whole process of |
| 00:34:53 | getting there he's actually doing it because a lot has its producers nobility. He's the host |
| 00:34:58 | and then he brings on different staff members to talk about the different work that they're all doing |
| 00:35:18 | . He actually talked about the old days of building another show. It's |
| 00:35:23 | really fascinating not too long ago a show I think you know between like seventeen and twenty minutes |
| 00:35:28 | each episode it's really fun and I'll tell you the one thing that I thought was most fascinating because we're |
| 00:36:53 | don't want to like there's another side note coming. Game of Thrones the other new show THE |
| 00:36:58 | BRINK looks great. There's so much I took did I tell you about a video game early this week that I |
| 00:37:03 | still haven't played. Yes we'll let you go seeking it that there is that we're going |
| 00:37:08 | to let our audience go as well. Hey thank you so much. Audience Thank you |
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